New era for ME/CFS research as top cytokine study attracts media headlines
The immune systems of patients who have recently developed ME/CFS look markedly different from those who have been ill for much longer, according to a major new study from Drs. Ian Lipkin and Mady Hornig at Columbia University. This shift in immune function hadn’t been seen before.
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Probiotics

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Spinney Lainey, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. Spinney Lainey

    Spinney Lainey Senior Member

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    Which make do people recommend? I've been using Kirkman but not sure if they do anything.........
     
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    I think it's important to know what you've got in your gut first, so you know what you need to supplement with. Tests showed I was overpopulated with lactobacilli species and very low in bifido species, so that made it clear what to supplement with. Have you had your stool analyzed to see what bacteria you're low or high on?
     
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    Spinney Lainey Senior Member

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    No, I haven't. Where did you get this done?
     
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    It's disturbing to me how many people with cfs are claiming tests are revealing large numbers of lactic acid producing bacteria. D and L-Lactate interconvert so whether one produces just D or L Lactate is meaningless, none are good in that event. The symptoms of lactic acidosis are close to CFS.
     
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    @xks201 Do you know which bacteria produce lactic acid? And would symptoms be the same as experienced when doing anaerobic exercise?
     
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    To my understanding anything that says lacto in front of it will produce lactic acid. D or L it doesn't matter as there is an enzyme that will convert them back and fourth.

    A healthy person does not experience the degree of symptoms during exercise as someone would with lactic acidosis or D-Lactate acidosis. The symptoms you can google and are pretty much similar to metabolic acidosis...disorientation...confusion..etc..
     

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