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PROBIOTIC?

Paralee

Senior Member
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571
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USA
Does anyone have an idea of what kind of probiotic would be used for aspergillis and candidiasis?
Need to go shopping and I don't know if the vitamin shop would have a clue.
Thanks.
 

Richard7

Senior Member
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772
Location
Australia
A) when it comes to probiotics I always look at https://cfsremission.com/ Ken has a lot of good info about interactions between botanicals, probiotics and fungi.

B) when it comes to fungi I would look at nystatin or something similar.

here is Myhill's page on candida http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Yeast_problems_and_candida

I came to the conclusion that I had too much yeast in 2014 but was unable to afford to do the private tests that my doctor would have needed to prescribe the nystatin or other antifungals. So I tried botanicals and probiotics and got some improvement.

Early this year I was able somehow to meet criteria for a single course or nystatin and the change was dramatic. I had at that stage a good degree of fermentation in my stools (when I formed them) after taking the nystatin they sank, sat on the bottom of the bowl and had no evidence of fermentation at all.

I do not know if it works this way but my ubiome tests had showed very low total bacterial counts, about 5% of the normal levels, so I wonder if that was because almost everything was fungal.

Anyway the antifungals did not suddenly make me well, but I went from having lots of undigested food in every stool to having stools that were pretty homogeneous. And the change was dramatic enough to convince the the doctor so I am doing something like myhill's protocol.

I am not sure if this works for aspergillis.
 

jepps

Senior Member
Messages
519
Location
Austria
Does anyone have an idea of what kind of probiotic would be used for aspergillis and candidiasis?
Need to go shopping and I don't know if the vitamin shop would have a clue.
Thanks.

Pichia is the antagonist of opportunistic fungi:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24626467
We found that Pichia spent medium (PSM) inhibited growth of Candida, Aspergillus and Fusarium. Moreover, Pichia cells and PSM inhibited Candida biofilms (P = .002 and .02, respectively, compared to untreated controls).

Pichia is the friendly yeast of the saccharomyces family. Saccharomyces boulardii or saccharomyces cerevisiae are members of this family and antagonists.