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Potential remedy for CFS/Fibromyalgia (Biotin)

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Wayne, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne Senior Member

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    A new poster over on the ProHealth board just started an interesting thread entitled:

    Potential remedy for CFS/Fibromyalgia

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    anne_likes_red Senior Member

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    Thanks Wayne, that's very interesting.

    Biotin is one of the big players in the KPU protocol. Apparently people with high levels of metal toxicity can excrete any Biotin they produce...and they often don't produce enough in the first place if they have gut problems. So it sounds like for many of us it may be well worth a trial :)

    Thanks again for posting!
  3. Suzy

    Suzy Guest

    Very interesting. I have high propionic acid in my blood which apparently can be caused by low biotin according to rich V.
  4. Wayne

    Wayne Senior Member

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    Biotin for Agitated Exhaustion ?

    Does anybody ever have the experience where you read about something that might be helpful for your health, and it just sort of "lights up" for you. That's what happened when I saw this thread on biotin, and so I went out and bought some yesterday (high potency of 5mg). I paid a little over $5 for it.

    Well, I got home and took one right away, and shortly after went down for my afternoon nap. I noticed I slept differently (better) than normal, and into the evening noticed more of a calmness in my system.

    Now this morning, I'm continuing to notice the same thing. It is a pleasant relief! I've long had "agitated exhaustion" with great difficulty settling down. Microcurrent therapy (alpha-stim) has been very helpful, but I am feeling optmistic about what biotin might be able to do for me as I continue using it.

    I would recommend this to Cort (who has mentioned his inablity to relax), but I don't want to interfere with his prodigious writing, which I so much appreciate. So please everybody, don't tell Cort about this post! :D

    Wayne
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    I have been taking a vitamin compound that has 3,000 mg of biotin in it. I started it over a yr ago for my hair and nails. It's been amazing for my hair (except it grows faster and I have to color roots more often. My nails are the best they've been. But I haven't noticed anything else. I'm going to increase it for a wk and see what happens.
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    I just came across this old string. It's been a while since the posting. Anyone else see improvements w Biotin?
  7. Aussie Kathy

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    Sad to say I have been taking Biotin for over two years with no noticable improvement.

    Sorry to be the party pooper.
  8. dannybex

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    Very interesting Wayne. I was prescribed 5mg biotin 2x a day...months and months ago, but you know how it goes...a cupboard full of supplements, one tends to not know what is helping, what is helping, plus one gets REALLY sick of taking all these things.

    Having said that...biotin is one of the things I've not taken very often in the past 2 months...and this past month has been HELL...just extremely agitated and restless, yet can hardly stand up.

    So...even though this is a year old, and not everyone might benefit, I'm glad I found the thread, and will try and get some more biotin today. I wasn't anywhere near this bad even 2-3 months ago.

    Thanks!
  9. jeffrez

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    If you have low cortisol, low cortisol precursors, low androgens, etc. biotin can drive the wrong end of the pathway and make you worse. People should find out what's wrong with themselves first if possible and address what they find there before just taking random supplements because it supposedly cured someone else's CFS. Imo.
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    hi Mr.Kite

    Do you have any references you can point me to in stating that additonal biotin lowers cortisol? I can't seem to find any when searching for it. To the contrary, I've heard other people say it can help in raising cortisol..but there again..they did not cite references to those claims.
  11. Calathea

    Calathea Darkness therapy

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    I tried biotin at that dosage for a goodly number of months with no discernible difference whatsoever, I'm afraid.
  12. Wayne

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    After reading an Article by Mercola on the benefits of eating raw eggs, I think I'm going to start introducing them into my smoothies. Mercola eats four raw eggs a day! I think I'll start with one. :rolleyes: The article says that egg whites inhibit the uptake of biotin, so many people don't eat them. But Mercola believes there is so much biotin in the egg yolks (nature's balance) that you can eat the whole egg raw and not be affected. For anybody who might be interested in upping their biotin intake using foods, eating just the egg yolk would probably do that very well.
  13. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I think I will start with none. :vomit:
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    Hey. I never said that biotin lowers cortisol, only that biotin can drive the metabolic pathways in ways that the cell might not be ready or able to handle, much like exercising can drive the aerobic pathways and make you worse, even though exercising might even increase cortisol. Depends on the person and their mitochondrial and energy metabolic profile, what energy blockages exist in the cell, electron transport chain, etc. Sorry for the delay, I just saw the reply now when the thread was re-activated.
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    Thanks Radio, I wasn't sure what was the purpose of the L-Lysine (500 mg twice a day) in your protocole... Got the answer now.

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