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Possible cause found? Alpha or Beta Radiation.

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by MR AIDAN G WALSH, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. MR AIDAN G WALSH

    MR AIDAN G WALSH

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    A cause has been found for cfs/fibro...Paper has been submitted for publication and Alpha radiation or Beta radiation are responsible...Both tests were done with urine analysis...More news will be coming out very soon and also Drs. Klimas & Peterson are also finding CD-56 brights cells at Bond University in Austrailia which is also a marker for radiation ionizing injuries...This will be the third time radiation has been mentioned associated will illness prior at Wayne State University researchers found in Gulf War Vets blood using a procedure called 'Sky Test' chromosone breakage and translocations...

    Years back researchers at the Uiversity of Hawaii looked at cfs/gwi/fibro and had said there is absolutely no difference in illnesses they are all the same...This same research team tested thousands of samples across the globe and found that they were all positives to ciguatera (epitopes) which actually meant the ciguatera was different than others because something was not right about this infection and the key found now is linked back to the recent finds of ionizing radiation...I believe now that this cause will change the path only forward for much needed serious fundings and I can assure all of you here now that the scientists involved in this ground breaking research are the best and will have no problems whatsoever proving their research is correct and a true cause to suffering has been found..

    .Chernobyl, even spent Military dumpings in the oceans are also being mentioned so are the 1986-1988 imports of foods to North America with contaminations from Chernobyl fallouts...For all of you who have not seen the Discovery Channel 4 part series this will give you an idea about these findings through U-tube 'google' search this 'gulf war vets conspiracy blood test' parts 1 to 4...

    God bless all of you and if you need to reach me I am on Facebook Southampton area Aidan Walsh you will see a gold Angel as my profile picture...

    Blesses everyone also red grapes 'skin' may help also Aloe Vera plant 'pure sap' and also Reservatrol but discuss things with your Doctors...

    I also posted on my timeline about a patent filed on treating Chernobyl children with Spirulina that reduced radiation as much as 50% over a 45 day period...

    Take care more good news coming out soon do not give up and never give in to the phycobabblers uneducated lies, Court if you need to reach me I believe you have my email address ok bye everyone x x hang in there their are great minds working very hard for everyone and new medicines are also being looked into and this also looks to be involved in numerous other illnesses with the potential as markers for auto immune disorders....................................BLESSES..............................
     
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    The idea of a breakthrough seems so unlikely after all these years but it will interesting to see further news on this. May have something to do with why I have had success with spirulina over the last 12 months, I have continually come back to resveratrol time and time again over the years as well, has always seemed to make a difference every time I am on it.
     
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  3. Adster

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    I wouldn't be taking this one too seriously.
     
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  4. pollycbr125

    pollycbr125 Senior Member

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    Sorry but I think the title of this thread is a bit much especially when many are still reeling over what has happened over the last 3 years . I have to say im rather sceptical about such bold outlandish claims even xmrv was not claimed to be the cause it was seen as a potential cause.

    wouldnt radiation damage be permanent anyway I thought radiation stayed in the body ?
     
  5. lansbergen

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    My disease started before Chernobyl happened.

    There also were outbreaks before the Chernobyl incident.
     
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  7. taniaaust1

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    I didnt think i could be affected by the words "Cause Found" as much as I was when I saw that heading.. I think my heart almost stopped there for a moment.

    It would be great if this does turn out to be the cause IF this can be treated well.

    I did have a few days worth of spirulina in the past (never got right into that supplement thou) but didnt notice any improvement from it from just a few days which isnt enough to be really able to comment well about it.

    Does wheatgrass do similar thing to spirualina?? When I was juicing organic wheatgrass daily.. that I did find helpful.. it made me feel over all weller and like I was healing (I stopped doing that thou after a couple of weeks as it was very difficult to juice from grass).
     
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  8. alex3619

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    If this is true, and I do not concede it is (we haven't even seen a paper yet) then Japan will be in for a very rough time in the coming years. Radiation damage to mitochondria is a big worry, as its often irrepairable in the mitocondria, I think. However if still healthy mitochondria can be induced to replicate, they can take up the burden.

    Ionlzing radiation, and its link to CFS and ME, has been discussed by Martin L Pall. Post radiation syndrome is very similar to post viral syndromes.

    The ciguatera thing I had thought was debunked, as the test was picking up cardiolipin by mistake? I could be wrong about that, but trying to prove ionizing radiation is responsible would be a five to ten year project, minimum, after the first paper is released.

    Most such theories are disproved. However, every new theory does have a chance. Someday one of them will be right (or more than one if there are different types of ME and CFS).

    One of the reasons I doubt ionizing radiation is responsible is you would see a massive increase in CFS in countries affected by Chernobyl. On the other hand, I do note that Scandinavian countries appear to have had epidemic after epidemic but its not recorded as ME or CFS, but post Q fever.

    If CFS were however caused by short life radio isotopes emitting ionizing radation from inside our cells, then it would only require a small dose, and it would disappear slowly depending on the half life of the particular isotope. On the flip side, the reduction in clear epidemics in USA especially could be linked to cessation of nuclear testing.

    Even if ionizing radiation is partly to blame, I would still suspect the necessity for cofactors.

    Bye, Alex
     
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    Is this the "big news" that one of the USA CFS groups was going to announce in their Fall newsletter?
     
  10. taniaaust1

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    Im thinking more about this theory and my case and if I may of had any unusual contact with this... the answer is yes (there's heaps of different factors which could of come into why I have ME).

    Back when I was a teen I used to go horseriding with a girl (who later went on and developed ME too around the same year as I did), who's parents used a part of the horses paddock as a illegal toxic waste dump and sometimes locals would dump things down there in which werent allowed to be dumped at the public tip.

    As kids.. we were always told to stay away from that section of the paddock and did.. but her horse.. was often feeding around or maybe in that very same part of the paddock.

    I also had quite a bit of exposure to xrays.. due to my childs spinal condition and having to hold her at times while she was having xrays, as her spine as she grew was monitored. (she may of had lots xrays as much as 4-5 times when she was growing up)
     
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    Alex.. do you know what year they did the nuclear testing in the outback of Australia??? (it may of been in Sth Australia). Cause SA (Adelaide) had an ME outbreak in the late 1940s or early 1950s . it may of been 1949-1952 (so hence Im wondering if those dates would tally. That would be too much to say its probably a coicincidence if those dates tally up.

    What year(s) was nuclear testing done in Sth Aust
     
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    I'm what we call in my country ( not Russia) "a Chernobil child" meaning I was a fetus when it happened and when I was born I ate the food that was affected by radioactive rain. But I doubt it has anything to do with it. Of the thousands of people who were born same time as I, who I met over the years at school and universiy, I'm the only one who has ME.

    I have to agree with alex3619. If this was the case we would see increase in prevalence in irradiated areas.
     
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    Ive been searching trying to find the answer to my question. Interestingly, Australia has had 3 known ME outbreaks all up. 2 in Sth Australia and one in Western Australia and the two places nuclear testing has been done are SA and WA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga

    More interestingly.. the dates of the SA outbreak.. the nuclear testing year was during this outbreak which went for a few years.. but unless the outbreak start date has been recorded down a little wrong (who knows?)... the time is out by 3 yrs (with the nuclear testing happening at the end of the outbreak).

    I cant remember the date of the western Australia ME outbreak.. it would be interesting to know
    "On 3 October 1952, the United Kingdom tested its first nuclear weapon, named "Hurricane", at the Montebello Islands off the coast of Western Australia. "

    "A year later the first nuclear test on the Australian mainland was Totem 1 (9.1 kilotons) at Emu Field in the Great Victoria Desert, South Australia, on 15 October 1953. Totem 2 (7.1 kilotons) followed two weeks later on 27 October.[1] "

    So interesting one of only two Sth Australia ME outbreaks was said to be 1949-1953. (could the years be slightly out??).
     
  14. Kina

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    Moderator Note:

    Please note -- the title of this thread has been changed. We have added the word 'Possible' and the words 'Alpha or Beta radiation'

    Thank you.
     
  15. MR AIDAN G WALSH

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    Let's pray this does not take us down the paths of back and forth tennis...
    Thanks Kina I agree 100% what you wrote, I am not one great at comments but atleast this gets patients somewhat informed I will try to update more info as it comes along we can all thank Gail Kansky and her team together with another foundation for their fundings of this important research news...
     
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  16. SilverbladeTE

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    Alex
    Scandanavia got dosed repeatedly with fallout from Russian atomic tests on Nova Zemlaya
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novaya_Zemlya#Nuclear_testing
    anywa, that's jsut "backgroudn info"
    I am sceptical of this suggestion of radiation, because the fact is, radiation sufficient to cause such harm is detecttable
    and, in quantities enough to do such damage throught the system or to a major organ, you'd have massive incidences of cancer, and death, it would show up every time folk took an x-ray, the poor sods would be glowing on the exposures! (though probably not for some alpha emitters)
    however, it is interesting.

    As noted, my area was dosed with radiation form the natural reuslt of having a truly massive steelworks (boh form metals and burning of coal)
    and several factories that used radium and radioactive phosphorous to paint dials of watches, clocks and aircraft dials.
    they had ot get the IAEA to help clen up the factory where my dad worked and surprise surprise, those who worked in the radiation section never lived to draw their pensions.

    Since a lot of ME diagnosis are MISdiagnosis, radiation could certianly be cosnidered for a percentage of us, or contributing factor.

    Please read up on Sellafield, those stupid SOBs released vast quantities of toxic radioactives, over two tons of uranium oxide never mind the rest, so bad the bloody seaweed is unsafe to use as fertilizer up the entire West coast of Scotland!


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield#Environment_and_health_issues
    Russia had Mayak and severla other disasters, never mind Chernobyl (and Mayak is considerably worse because reactor material actually got into the environment!)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Karachay
    one of my faves ot highlight the stupidity in extremis of the Cold War nuclear lunacy was in Russia,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticality_accident

     
  17. alex3619

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    Hi Tania, wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga

    These nuclear tests were most of a decade after the Adelaide ME epidemic.The epidemic was, I think, 1948 and 1949 (two of them) and the nuclear testing was post 1955.

    Bye, Alex

    PS .... but it seems you reached this conclusion already, doh.
     
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    Not much alpha beta radiation around - all my neighbours seem very well indeed.
     
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    believe they did mustard gas and other tests too though during WW2?
     
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    Hi SilverbladeTE, I think they did such testing here too, though in Queensland, far from our epidemics. I do not have a link, I don't recall enough of the details to do a good search. Bye, Alex
     

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