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Pollen! is ruining my sleep. What to do?

Discussion in 'Sleep' started by Dreambirdie, May 2, 2014.

  1. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Spring is my season of torture. :ill::ill::ill::aghhh::aghhh::aghhh::aghhh::aghhh::aghhh:

    Pollen is hell on me. I had been taking mega doses of Isoquercitrin, which until this week had been helping my brain inflamed/neuro-wired symptoms. Then it stopped working.... damn! :grumpy: so I started taking pycnogenol in fairly high doses (5 pills at leat 4X/day), and for a while that worked.

    But the last two days were so **HOT** that I left the house and went to the beach, and being outdoors was no match for either of these supps. So now I am back in the house with my air filter blazing, waiting for all the damn plants to finish their mass orgy, so I can get some bearably decent sleep again. Last night was an insomnia marathon. HATE THAT!

    Remind me... someone... what else is these that helps alleviate the severe inflammatory reaction caused by pollen allergies? I want a gallon of it....now.
     
  2. maryb

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    @Dreambirdie
    sounds like hell.....I only know of antihistamines, there are so many though and all have different effects on different people, I guess you've tried every one on the market though:(
    there is a product on sale here in the UK - its like a beeswax and you smear it up your nose, it traps the pollen before it gets into your sinuses, but that still leaves your mouth and eyes, mask and goggles are not a good look for the beach.
    Funny isn't it I would have thought the beach was a good place to be away from the trees etc, but maybe not in the US.
    hope the hell stops soon.
     
  3. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Did you try the rosmarinic acid last year?
     
  4. xchocoholic

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    Zinc 50 mg daily and 1/4-1/2 tsp Walgreens children's dye free benadryl at bedtime and maybe once during the day work for me as long as I don't get covered in pollen. Taking a shower helps if I've been exposed to heavy pollen.

    We just completed pollen season here. Whew ! Hope yours ends soon. Tc . X

    PS. I tried other allergy meds but this one works best for me. I keep it in my mouth as long as possible so my body absorbs it there. Seems to work better than swallowing a pill.
     
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  5. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    I have some. How much to take?

    @xchocoholic
    I don't tolerate benadryl at all...it makes me worse. And zinc doesn't work either.

    @maryb The beach is good ONLY when we have an on shore flow, otherwise the air comes from inland carrying the pollen, like yesterday. I am rinsing with salt water. Hopefully that will help in time.
     
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  6. Ema

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    I have seen doses ranging from 50 to 500 mg, twice a day of rosmarinic acid. I guess start low and see what happens?

    It's miserable here too. :(. Stupid trees.
     
  7. boohealth

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    The good fish oil helped me...you can also gather the blossoms and tree pollens and make a tincture with everclear for next year (eye of the dog). There is some standard process supplement too, with liver in it, that supposedly works.
     
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  8. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Antronex.

    It never worked for me but worth a try.
     
  9. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    Staying inside all day with the doors taped shut, and doing the shotgun supplement method by taking EVERYTHING I have in fairly high doses (isoquercitrin, pycnogenol, rosmarinc acid, curcumin, and Chinese herbs) seems to be helping for now. Not that my stomach is too fond of all this, but it doesn't have a vote right now.

    The pollen count for tree pollen should start going down in the next couple weeks, as the count for grasses goes up.That's usually easier for me to hadle. It's the trees that do me in.
     
  10. Cheesus

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    Vitamin C at high doses (can't remember what, you would have to check) reduces histamine.

    Have you also tried a humidifier in addition to your purifier? I think the idea is the water droplets condense on the pollen and they fall under the weight. I am not sure if this is actually a thing or is only a function of my imagination.
     
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  11. peggy-sue

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    It might be your imagination, but it would work, Cheseus!

    All I can suggest is smearing vaseline around your nose, to catch it before you snort it in. It works the same way as the proprietary stuff.

    We've got all the oil-seed rape coming up here. That's my nightmare. I had no problems at all until the farmers got subsidised for growing the vile stuff, now it's EVERYWHERE. It even grows as a weed in my garden.

    It's misery, I hope you feel a lot better soon.
     
  12. Ema

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  13. Dreambirdie

    Dreambirdie work in progress

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    @Ema Yeah, I have thought about DAO. It's used primarily for food allergies, but maybe it could work for pollen allergies as well. Have you ever used it for that?

    An FB friend also suggested Lutimax and moringa... which are anti-inflammatory, and which I think could be helpful since inflammation is the main issue when I have allergies.

    I wish there was a way to buy 6 capsules of each, as I already have a cabinet full of supps that either didn't work or made me feel worse. I hate collecting more.
     
  14. Ema

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    I did try DAO and didn't notice much benefit from it. If I had any left over, I would send it to you! But maybe low DAO enzyme isn't my problem...and there seem to be quite a few people who do benefit from it. I think it might be worth a try.

    The Swanson product also has a lot more active ingredient than the Histame (which is what I took).

    I think we should start a thread where we post pics of our failed supplement supplies. I'm using the second walk in closet in my bathroom as a repository...and it is getting scarily full! Wish there was a better way to pass them along...I have such a hard time just throwing them away.
     
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  15. maryb

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    @Ema
    in addition to photos we should post what the cost of them add up to????????? now that would be scary
     
  16. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Unfortunately, hope is priceless. And I get a little bit of it each time I buy something new...unfortunately, usually short lived. I need a 12 step group for supplement addicts, obviously, or should just buy something useful like shoes. :)
     
  17. Valentijn

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    We could do the B-12 steps? :rofl:
     
  18. maryb

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    You know that's so true - I too think every time - maybe this one will..........
    and yes shoes are a good idea, now if only the soles of my feet weren't killing me:(
     
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    Supplement Suckers

    1st step. We admit we are powerless over supplement experiments and our cupboards have become unmanageable.
     
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