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Poll for Causation Models of Chronic Enivronmental Disease

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by Sam7777, Feb 26, 2013.

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What is the greatest sole underlying probable weighted causitive risk of developing Chronic Disease?

  1. Lyme (Borrelia, Ricketsia, Bartonella, etc)

    20.0%
  2. Gluten (Celiac and Gluten Insensitivity)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Dairy (Lactose, Casein allergy, etc)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Vitamin D deficiency

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. High Glycemic Oxidative Food (Corn syrup, sugar, grains, carbs, sodas, potatoes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Macromineral Electroylte Deficiencies (tested by Trace Hair Mineral Analysis)

    20.0%
  7. Intestinal Permeability (Leaky Gut Syndrome)

    40.0%
  8. Mercury, Lead, Arsenic, etc from all sources

    20.0%
  9. Oxidation/Inflammation/Degenerative Metabolic Conditions

    40.0%
  10. Acid pH

    20.0%
  11. Epstein Bar Virus, CMV, other related

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Herpes Hetero Virus 6, HHV1, HHV2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Candida

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Partially or Totally Blocked Methylation Cycle (Phase 1,2, 3 Detox knockout also)

    60.0%
  15. Individual and Varities of Food Antigen, Food autoimmune triggers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sam7777

    Sam7777 Senior Member

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    I have been trying and trying to review Chris Shade, Larry Wilson, Andrew Cutler, Freddd, Russell Jaffe, Boyd Haley, Klinghardt, Richard K Vank, Natasha Campbell McBride, Kenneth Bockman, Nora Gegaudas, Gary Null, Mercola, and countless other sources over what the underpinning etiology of degenerative disease is, particularly the prognosis of it developing into full blown conditions. What I do know, many, many people exist on a grey area of the spectrum where they haven't fully been diagnosed. So what follows is a poll to determine what people feel like has the highest probability to cause disease and the highest association with disease.
     
  2. Sushi

    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Sam7777

    Hi, the poll is a nice idea but I think it may be too broad for chronic disease as one category as chronic diseases differ so much. Maybe you could change it to ask about one chronic disease?

    Best wishes,
    Sushi
     
  3. Sam7777

    Sam7777 Senior Member

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    Excellent point so let me clarify what kind of outcome I am expecting.

    I believe that while many different diseases form from different routes, some diseases and some routes overall are more prevalent. That is what I am hoping will show in these results.
     
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    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Sam7777

    Yet, for instance, all of those are probably involved in ME/CFS, and it would be very hard to rank them, as frankly we don't know that answer. And, while some are likely more important than others, some things in the list are more likely consequences rather than causal factors.

    Sushi
     
  5. ahmo

    ahmo Senior Member

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    I agree w/ Sushi. This might work better if you poll for how many of these things are contributing to an individual's illness, rather than which one we think is causal. ahmo
     
  6. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member

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    can you add something along these lines?

    1. An unknown virus
    2. Genetics
    3. An unknown pathogen
    4. common pathogens and viri found in patients with chronic disease
    5. Mixture of genetics and pathogens

    and maybe something like

    6. None of the above
    7. Wouldn't have a clue, the question is too vague
     
  7. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    I don't begin to have the knowledge to answer this.
     
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  8. Sam7777

    Sam7777 Senior Member

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    ahmo

    You can vote for multiple selections, so in effect you are able to select the number that you believe are contributing to your overall illness.

    For instance, when I voted, I selected 6 different things.
     
  9. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Compromised immune system caused by any of the above (or undiscovered pathogens/viri like ukxmrv said), but with epigenetic/genetic predispositions in place first. Usually with stress weakening the immune system too.
     
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  10. Freddd

    Freddd Senior Member

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    Hi Sam,

    I would say that it is lack of the Deadlock quartet in any different variations and varying co-deficiencies. See the list in Active B12 protocol Basics.
     

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