Phentermine

[pine108kell]

I know stimulants are not an everyday solution but I've been ill for 15 years trying literally hundreds of different things. I've taken phentermine on a random handful of (not consecutive) and always feel vastly better mentally And physically.

Knowing I can't take this everyday I am just curious if anyone else has improved their quality of life and what was their protocol was or run into dangers with phentermine.

I want to hear both positive and negative but in either case I am really interested in actual experiences over speculations on stimulates in general or biochemistry and physiology. Thank you.

 

[IThinkImTurningJapanese]

I have taken Phentermine once, as well as Ritalin. Both helped. So I asked a Doctor for a trial, based on this experience, when I became severely ill.

I was given some other ADHD drug, can't remember it's name, but I didn't have a positive experience.

It was like racing the engine on a car running out of gas.

I do, however, use coffee and recently licorice and ginseng with rather good results.

 

[Seven7]

Stimulant tends to make you feel better temporarily then crash you (because you will over do). If you know is just to make you feel better and not do more, I think might be ok. I haven't tried that way (my doctor had me in it for a month and did not end well).

 

[pine108kell]

Thanks, this is kind of what I expected to hear. Curious if anyone is able to take any stimulant once or twice a week to get a couple of decent days without big crashes (assuming you don't way overdo)?

 

[IThinkImTurningJapanese]

Curious if anyone is able to take any stimulant once or twice a week to get a couple of decent days without big crashes (assuming you don't way overdo)?

Post Exertional Malaise (PEM) is something to be respected, if you don't you'll pay.

With that said, I understand were you're coming from. Many years into this illness, I still challenge it and refuse to be defeated.

You just have to learn how to fight a fight that you can win.

Support the body and learn to pay attention to the warning signs. Good luck.

 

[pine108kell]

Post Exertional Malaise (PEM) is something to be respected, if you don't you'll pay.

With that said, I understand were you're coming from. Many years into this illness, I still challenge it and refuse to be defeated.

You just have to learn how to fight a fight that you can win.

Support the body and learn to pay attention to the warning signs. Good luck.

Thanks for your support. I agree with what you said. I never imagined I would be asking about stimulants as it is obvious our bodies cannot support the energy use and a stimulant will cause some level of PEM and possibly longtime worsening.

But here I am after 15 years of trying seemingly everything else with little success. Small doses of phentermine make me feel half-human with improvements in everything from mental clarity to OI. With obvious limitations by taking phentermine I can function at some level without thinking about how bad I feel. To me, depending on the situation one good half-human day followed by one really awful day (taking phentermine one day) might be better than two regular awful days (not taking phentermine). I don't know if this is how it would work in the long run or if there are other consequences, which is one reason why I started this thread. I appreciate the thoughts.

 

[heapsreal]

Thanks, this is kind of what I expected to hear. Curious if anyone is able to take any stimulant once or twice a week to get a couple of decent days without big crashes (assuming you don't way overdo)?

That sounds reasonable. I use modafinil a few times a week with no real issues but then i dont think of it as a stimulant but more an awakener.