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Peter White "retiring from research at the end of this year"

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Wolfiness, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. Wolfiness

    Wolfiness Activity Level 0

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  2. Sidereal

    Sidereal Senior Member

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    Two down, one to go. Crawley is still there.
     
  3. A.B.

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    Reposting this here since it's the right place:

    White retiring from research is good news, but as advisor [to the MEGA study] he can still do a lot of damage. That the MEGA team continues to collaborate with White suggests they do not understand key issues.

    It is unacceptable that they continue to collaborate with a fraudster that has exploited patients to advance his own interests. See PACE.

    Both Crawley and White orchestrated a smear campaign against patients critical of their work. The tribunal hearing in the ICO vs QMUL case showed that the accusations of death threats and harassment were baseless. Legitimate criticism and requests for data were conflated with harassment - this only served the purpose of protecting bad science produced by the BPS lobby from being exposed.

    They have repeatedly demonstrated their incompetence in matters of research, producing one flawed study after another, wasting resources and producing nothing of value for patients.

    Research is moving towards democratisation. White and Crawley are despised by patients and need to go.
     
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  4. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl Senior Member

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    Hmmmm!

    After a bad night I want to check if brain is in gear. Did I just read that that Collins is resigning and WHITE is retiring from research later this year? .....but will retain an ADVISORY ROLE? Excellent if he is really leaving, but we don't want him advising on anything ME as the man has been a disaster for us. He is very fortunate, after all the harm he has caused to this patient population, if he can just drift off into the sunset.........preferably not an English sunset.

    I'm going to make another black coffee and read it again................

    Brain kicking in...........CRAWLEY is still there. I am still not signing.
     
  5. A.B.

    A.B. Senior Member

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    White is going to be fortunate if he can make it out of this mess without prosecution. GET did a lot of harm to patients.

    PS: we need independent postmarketing surveillance on GET to quantify the harm.
     
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  6. adreno

    adreno PR activist

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    I guess an "advisory role" means that he cannot be held accountable. Sort of like sir simon and PACE.
     
  7. lansbergen

    lansbergen Senior Member

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    Yep
     
  8. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl Senior Member

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  9. Wolfiness

    Wolfiness Activity Level 0

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    I'm just enjoying the idea that he's finally thrown in the towel.
     
  10. Countrygirl

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    It would be interesting to know how this came about............did he resign........(not willingly, I guess).........or was he found to be too much of a liability and had a little 'encouragement'?
     
  11. Solstice

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    If he's still advising he hasn't thrown in the towel yet. Can still steer people of the right path.
     
  12. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    "Retiring and will have an advisory role" isn't quite the same as "being flung out on his ear". Doesn't "have an advisory role" mean the same as "become a shadowy figure in the background"? Sir Simon had an advisory role on appointments.
     
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  13. Chrisb

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    Have the PR advisors (that is the people they listen to, not us) completely lost the plot? For the "Alliance" the only way to restore trust is a "clean break".

    This must mean either that he has something they need or that he continues to pull the strings.
     
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  14. Justin30

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    What would be great is to see that GET did infact cause decline in a substantial cohort of patients.

    Maybe a well drafted document sent to all patients that were treated with GET and those that were recommended to do GET and significantly declined.

    Remember other than the UK thats has guidlines and Drs and Nurses outline and walking patients through the processes no other countries had this yet recommended the treatment.

    I hope that our ME organizations could draft this document and have it sent out through Drs and Universities asking ME DXed patients as well as online groups to sign if they declined after this therapy as "IT IS NOT A TREATMENT" for a biological disease.

    I would hope that this could be sent out to all the top Drs in the US and abroad as well as ME patients in the UK.

    This would essentially help in showing what all of us know that GET is a treatment not clearly defined on how to use it and reaulted in permanent and deadly in some cases.

    This would just show thay Peter White and his colleagues should be nowwhere around or engaged with this community whatsoever.

    His retirement smells really bad as all the data coming out about PACE and as an advisor this may just be a way for him to slowly slide away from this community without facing reprecutions for influencing the world through a study that as people have reviewed show just how bad the science was.

    To much harm and messy inhumane things reside around ME and this denialist behaviour needs to stop.
     
  15. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    Could I cordially recommend that Prof. White not let the door bang his arse on the way out?
     
  16. Aurator

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    "Retiring from research"? Did he ever do any genuine research to retire from?

    As others have suggested, all he's retiring from is a position where he would be especially vulnerable to the backlash he's earned and can see coming his way.

    The "advisory role" bit clearly means a role that will allow him to safely influence policy without appearing to be responsible for doing so.
     
  17. snowathlete

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    The end of the year cannot come soon enough. I wish he'd quit before he'd started. White has no valuable advice to offer. His career is a failure when looked at from a patient perspective. I dare say from White's personal perspective, and for others who share his special interests, his career is looked on as a great success, but that is a different matter. The research does not benefit from his involvement in any way, it only brings it into disrepute.

    Same with Crawley.
     
  18. Glycon

    Glycon World's Most Dangerous Hand Puppet

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    Fact: Prominent academics do not "retire from research" at White's age unless they are incredibly sick or facing threats of serious litigation.
     
  19. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    Once he's got nothing to lose he might say some horrid things about us. Brace yourselves.
     
  20. A.B.

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    I always wanted to know what they really think.
     
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