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Peter White gets set to speak at Swiss Re Insurance Medicine Summit 2017

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Jo Best, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. Jo Best

    Jo Best Senior Member

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    Image below from: http://institute.swissre.com/events/Insurance_Medicine_Summit_2017.html#tab_4

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  2. Jo Best

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  3. Jo Best

    Jo Best Senior Member

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    Shocking Swiss Re newsletter from 2012: http://www.freezepage.com/1374761286EFCHIYENBE

     
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  4. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    To no-one's surprise!
     
  5. Jo Best

    Jo Best Senior Member

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    Just as well as I don't like suprises!
     
  6. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    You must be an optimist.

    Optimists are disappointed by surprises as they're more often than not, worse than they predicted.
    Pessimists are pleased by surprises as they're more often than not, better outcomes than they predicted.
     
  7. Jonathan Edwards

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    So Dr White has no conflict of interest in doing a Cochrane review of his own studies then?
     
  8. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    Good. This can leave no one in any doubt about what's driving the BPS school.

    Bonus clue: it ain't helping sick people.
     
  9. Denise

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    He's recycling a title of Wessely's:

    Psychol Med. 1990 Feb;20(1):35-53.
    Old wine in new bottles: neurasthenia and 'ME'.
    Wessely S1.
    Author information
    Abstract

    The history of neurasthenia is discussed in the light of current interest in chronic fatigue, and in particular the illness called myalgic encephalomyelitis ('ME'). A comparison is made of the symptoms, presumed aetiologies and treatment of both illnesses, as well as their social setting. It is shown that neurasthenia remained popular as long as it was viewed as a non-psychiatric, neurological illness caused by environmental factors which affected successful people and for which the cure was rest. The decline in neurasthenia was related to the changes which occurred in each of these views. It is argued that similar factors are associated with the current interest in myalgic encephalomyelitis. It is further argued that neither neurasthenia nor 'ME' can be fully understood within a single medical or psychiatric model. Instead both have arisen in the context of contemporary explanations and attitudes involving mental illness. Future understanding, treatment and prevention of these and related illnesses will depend upon both psychosocial and neurobiological explanations of physical and mental fatigability.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2181519
     
  10. Invisible Woman

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    Don't you just love the way the system works? POTS a claims epidemic waiting to happen?

    You can bet your life this won't be about getting people diagnosed and given access to help asap.

    It won't be about how we can encourage, support new research into curing it at least managing it to reduce the impact on their lives.

    It'll just be about reducing claims. Better yet see if we can twist it into a psych phenomenon and then simply refuse claims.
     
  11. RogerBlack

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    Unfortunately, I would be very surprised if they videoed the whole thing. Plus, it's invite only.

    As a general point, not all the presentations seem insane.

    Smoking, E-cigarettes, Reduced-Risk Products
    Reversing type 2 diabetes
    Too much medicine and the great statin con


    Reduction in health-care costs driven by insurance can be very positive.
    If you can stop treating people who no loner need it because you've cured them, or reduced their future risk, that can be a major profit to you and the patients.

    Similarly, stopping doing pointless interventions (CBT, GET).
     
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  12. Jo Best

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    I thought that title sounded familiar. They never tire of 'chronic fatigue' do they?
     
  13. Jonathan Edwards

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    I used to assume that it was in the interest of insurance companies to keep health care costs down so that they could make bigger profits but I was disabused of this by a friend who works in part as a gatekeeper for insurance claims. In fact it is in the insurance companies' interest for health care costs to be as high as the public will tolerate. The higher the cost th more likely people are to feel they need insurance. The higher the costs the higher the value the companies can add a percentage to when charging premiums.

    No doubt insurance companies have to keep rogue physicians under control who charge out of line fees but it is in there interest for the approved fee to be as high as people will pay. Apparently, within the medical travel insurance area there is major behind the scenes collusion between big insurers and rip-off private clinics. Gatekeepers have to learn that certain 'friends' are allowed to slip their invoices through. And threatening phone calls are not uncommon. All good John Le Carré stuff by the sound of it.
     
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    You'd think by now they would be tired of "chronic fatigue" (or at least be "chronically fatigued" themselves), but nooooo....
    Just don't ask them where they get such stamina... ;)
     
  16. Invisible Woman

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    ...their wallets?
     
  17. Jo Best

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    They never tire of 'chronic fatigue' do they?

    never tire of 'chronic fatigue'

    Ha. Ha. :(
     
  19. Demepivo

    Demepivo Dolores Abernathy

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    Peter White.... The malingerer...
     
  20. Valentijn

    Valentijn The Diabolic Logic

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    Actually that's pretty quackish too. Contrary to media portrayal, Type 2 is thus far incurable. Pre-diabetes might be "reversible".
     

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