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Petechia - tiny red spots - mainly on arms (burst blood vesels)

Discussion in 'Skeleton, Skin, Muscles, Hair, Teeth, and Nails' started by snowathlete, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. lansbergen

    lansbergen Senior Member

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    Years ago I checked it in the animals. They appeared only when the infection acted up.

    I do not see it as bad, For me it is just one of those things that can happen with an infection.
     
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  2. Sherezade

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    I didn't pay enough attn. to my body. That's how I got in this state. I pushed myself too hard, in every way, over 5 decades. So yes, if we have some new symptom far out of the ordinary for us, it's good judgement to note it & inquire. I- and we all- also have the right to an answer to a question about any symptom manifesting. We pay doctors, not vice versa.

    Additionally, considering the fact no entity has found a CAUSE for ME, much less a cure (with very good theories out there, & good results from some trmts), this site helps empower us all with our own "anecdotal" evidence. We're the ones invested in causes and cures. So if someone wants to post about little red spots or strange beings seeming to land on one's rooftop at midnight, I say all power to us.

    Because after the egregious medical shove-off the vast majority of we MEers went & still go thru- left in our homes suffering, or on the job barely making it or getting fired, hard-won careers lost (that took decades to build, in my case), then denied the basic safety net of food & shelter (never mind medical care) via SSDI, et al., & the charming now-increased likelihood of a variety of nasty diseases statistically tied to ME onset, and/or the untimely deaths via suicide (just 1 leading ME mortality cause), and after so much more anyone with this could write however long before brain fog takes over & fingers slip off the keys, frankly, I'm surprised I haven't read any whining, hypochondria, or otherwise here.

    If my platelets are too low- & they are- & others' are too, it's sound information. We don't know what posts in which forum will trigger focused research on our part that might lead to quality of life again. Today I read someone's words about Sjogrens. They rang the proverbial bell. Maybe a -yeah, proverbial missing link, in my case, or hers, or his, or. The only one in charge of my medical care now is me.

    I would not be surprised if one of us actually finds the cause or cure. As noted in posts around the site, an overwhelming majority of doctors- incl., & especially, psychiatrists- have a staggering dearth of education about ME. So it's us- right here- educating ourselves and interested parties about this devastation likened to last stage AIDS. I took care of a man with AIDS to his death. He didn't have to crawl to the bathroom.

    I hope the point is well-taken.

    Oh, lastly, born with a blood disorder, I wonder if anyone else posting here has one. That, too, is helpful information.

    Cheers, from Petechiaeland.[/quote]

    I know that extreme susceptibility is part of the illness too, maybe you want to talk about that as well. I'm open to discuss that too.

    Anyway, with my post i just wanted to ease the mind of those who have petechiae since it's a "symptom" that in 99% of the cases means nothing. As i said everyone in the world had a trombocytopeny at some point of their life.

    That's my opinion, if you have a different opinion and choose to worry about petechiae, that's your choice and you are entitled to it.

    :)
     
  3. Crux

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    Hi;
    There are multiple causes for thrombocytopenia, pancytopenia, etc. B12/Folate deficiency is one of them. Petechiae is associated with thrombocytopenia.

    So, my best guess is that petechiae may be associated with B12/folate deficiency, since it has helped in my case. (My platelets were lower normal at one time, but were not low.)

    http://bestpractice.bmj.com/best-practice/monograph/823/diagnosis/step-by-step.html
     
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  4. overtrain

    overtrain Medical Mafia needs to die via this virus.

    I know that extreme susceptibility is part of the illness too, maybe you want to talk about that as well. I'm open to discuss that too.

    Anyway, with my post i just wanted to ease the mind of those who have petechiae since it's a "symptom" that in 99% of the cases means nothing. As i said everyone in the world had a trombocytopeny at some point of their life.

    That's my opinion, if you have a different opinion and choose to worry about petechiae, that's your choice and you are entitled to it.

    :)[/quote]

    99% of the cases "mean nothing" in CFS? Or in the general population?

    In this thread, people posted they don't have them, or they do & increased at CFS onset, or right before, or in association with mono, and in animals w infection. Others have folate/b-12 theories, antioxidant theories, etc. Therefore, the red dots actually do 'mean' something here.

    Words like "worry" & lines like "we pay way too much attention to any detail in our bodies" sound like a doctor's brush-off aimed at disempowering inquiry, & also veers into the Don't worry your purty 'lil head territory. Silencing.

    Though, of course, you meant the opposite, as you say. Is there anything else symptomolgy-wise correlating to CFS that wasn't a concern for you? In your case or in the illness CFS/ME in general?

    Just curious.
     
  5. Sparrow

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    Okay...I just broke out in a new wave of these this evening, all over one of my hands and that forearm. ...Like, ALL over it. Tons and tons of them. One hand is normal now, and the other is a sea of dots. WTF? Has anyone else had that many appear all at once? Anyone figure out what caused the onslaught? *sigh*

    I know it's probably nothing serious, but I would sure like to know what the heck caused that.
     
  6. camas

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    Hi Sparrow,

    There are lots of rashes and lesions associated with mast cell disorders. I believe most are caused by excess histamine (hives or urticaria pigmentosa) and/or excess heparin which causes the blood vessels to leak. Doctors dismissed my spots for 30 years, but they turned out to be the key to my diagnosis of TMEP Mastocytosis. I also have a number of cherry angiomas which are very common, but are known to contain mast cells. Just a thought!
     
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  7. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6

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    I had petechiae after a severe episode of hyponatraemia (low blood sodium). Following a complete lack of sensible diagnosis for the cause of either, I worked out that they were symptoms of over-exertion for me. Mine bled when rubbed.
     
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  8. Phred

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    I haven't read the whole thread, but I had petechiae as a teen. It was caused by Chronic ITP (idiopathic/immune thrombocytopenia purpura). I had low platelets and couldn't keep them abouve the teens unless I took large doses of prednisone. I finally had to have my spleen removed to fix the problem. I was one of the lucky ones for whom that worked. My platelets have been in the 400's ever since. I don't know. I spent much of my teenage youth in and out of hospital because of all that. I'd get petechiae checked out. JMHO though.
     
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