Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Cort, Oct 2, 2009.
Thanks so much Tom
Yes, thanks Tom, and I appreciate the clarification. I know some people who do cranialsacral work, maybe it'd make more sense to try working with them. (Sorry for the delayed reply, but I've been crashy lately.)
This looks very interesting, and makes sense as one of the contributing factors to CFS.
My back looks exactly like some of of these people's. All flat and without proper curvature from the mid-back up. I have one leg significantly shorter than the other which partly causes this.
I think I'm going to get my cranio-sacral osteo to take a look. Though I did notice that the DVDs available are the wrong region code - I'm in Australia.
Try this link for the video.should save buying the dvd
The book is also available online.
Really informative video
Hi Tom, I used the Perrin Technique too which I did find most helpful..you feel pretty awful after the first couple of sessions but after 4 or 5 weeks I did start to improve. They believe that they can actually give you a physical diagnosis of ME from the blockages in the Lymphatic system and were trying to get this recognised with a couple of London Hospitals I believe at the time I went. They can actually tell your well being from the cranial sacral massage, the 'pulse' of the brain is usually very sluggish in people with ME. I am too from Lincolnshire (north) and went to Castleford but unfortunately the oesteopath who practised it there has moved away. I stopped going originally though as I went on the Energy Excellence Course down in Wales (I was on a mission to get well!),..with that though the practitioner did say to stop all other therapy which I did...rightly or wrongly. The Energy Excellence Course has helped too but I it has come back, also my 12 year old daughter is now showing signs of a fatigue type illness (all a little worrying) and I would like to know what a Perrin Practitioner thinks, please could you let me know who you see. Thank you jx
I go to http://www.newhopeforme.co.uk/ which is in Bedford and is the nearest pratitioner to me.
Skipton or Scarborough may be closer for you.
I have my Osteopath here on the Gold Coast looking into learning the technique. I dont think my back looks like that tho.
Thanks very much Tom, will follow it up. jx
Thanks Susan, I think I'm going to ask my Cranio person to take a look at it as soon as poss. I've crashed recently, so haven't had the chance to do anything at all. Soon though...
I had periodontal maintenance cleaning 10 days before Xmas. I ended up with chest wall pain (costochondritis ) two days later. (For the previous dental works I usually was asked to take 4 tablets Amoxi l one hour before the appointment. A couple years ago they changed the rule no longer required patients with heart murmur to take it. And the last time I took it hurt my digestive system. So this time I went without it).
I thought I caught some virus so I waited a week to see my PCP. Since I only had chill and pain withou fever my PCP said I was fine. But the pain getting worse and worse and I found myself holding a blanket for the entire Xmas holiday. I finally treated myself using some left over Amoxi l from the previous dental appointment. It took four days to feel completely better. At the 10th day some soreness came back on one of the spot on left chest wall. I told my PC. He thought I already took anti biotic and still didn’t get better then it must be virus infection. But my gut feeling told me I had bacterial infection from dental work and Amoxil helped to resolve it. AS for the soreness spot must be the lymphatic blockage. I started to use Perrin Technique I saw on the online video and on the book ( I bought the book from Amazon) . The soreness had cleared up now. Tom from Scotland, if you are reading this I want you know I appreciate you posted your story here. The Perrin Technique so far had help me cleared two soreness spots on chest (the other spot on right chest had been sore for half year). And the self- massage routine it uses ( head, facial, nasal) have helped for my sleep. I believe it help to drain brain fog down to the place where the body can carry out the toxin.
(This message have been posted on other thread. i re-posted here just let Tom know I appreciate it.)
Can't find VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS of the TECHNIQUE online?
Am I missing something? I've been to perrins' website, watched his stuff on youtube, and I STILL can't find any guidance as to the actual exercises?
I am in the US, so don't think his DVDs would work here.
As far as I'm aware the instructions for the self administerred part of the technique can only be found in the book.
yeah, i think some of the comments on the beginning of this thread were misleading
luke: are u doing the exercises or getting the txt from an osteopath and does it help?
I'm doing the technique with an osteopath who I've seen once a week for twelve weeks and am about to drop down to once a fortnight for the next twentyfour weeks. I also do the various exercises and hot and cold thoracic spine compresses three times a day.
It's definately having a strong positive effect in some areas and maybe just making me feel quite different in others. My sleep is much improved in timing, length and quality and times of day feel much more like they should do (if that makes sense). I feel much less wired and emotional lability seems greatly improved.
I'm finding my muscles are spontaneously relaxing when I lie down which is very unusual, I'm usually permamently tense. I'm not sure if I have more energy or not. I think I probably do but it's being used up by doing the exercises and faffing about with the compresses. I do also just feel different in a way I just can't quite put my finger on.
The Osteopath estimated it would take me 2 to 3 years (Perrin's produced a chart based on symtom severity and duration of illness) so it's early days. I seem to be a good candidate as I've had longstanding difficulties with my thoracic spine, a fractured skull and a twiice broken nose all of which would apparantly effect csf drainage.
thank you. very helpful.
do you think either of these wrap products would help with hot and cold therapy?
there's an upper back one and a neck one.
Hmmm.. I'm not sure, I think the back one is much bigger than neccesary and the technique focusses on the thoracic spine rather than the neck. Also as the sequence is 3mins cold, 1min hot, 1min cold, 1min hot, 1min cold, 3mins hot, you need to be able to change over quickly so the harness would be a bit awkward .
I use two rectangular gel packs (280 x 130mm) side by side as they match the size of the hot water bottle I'm using for the hot part. I put then on a towel on the floor and lie on them alternately.
Have you got the book? It's probably worth it if you were thinking of trying it out. I'm happy to discuss how my osteo recommends doing things but I don't think I've got the stamina to post the exercises in detail (typings pretty tricky for me).
no, i haven;t got the book. I was reading sample pages on amazon last night cos I buy the theory, don't wanna read about it, just wanndo the exercises which seem pretty straightforward.
you make a good point about the timing. hmm.
Aha, I misunderstood you then, I thought you couldn't find the exercises, good luck with it all.
Have you got the description of the exercises,slow gentle spinal twists, dry combing of your head, and nasal release breathing??
If not I can type out a descripton.
You can also try a Google Site Search
Separate names with a comma.