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Pain may be in the mind

Discussion in 'Action Alerts and Advocacy' started by Cheshire, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Cheshire

    Cheshire Senior Member

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    Our dearest friend Simon is back!
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article4126073.ece

    UnfortunatelyI can't read the whole article, but the beguining is promising!
     
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  4. Cheshire

    Cheshire Senior Member

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    And doesn't he look in fear of his very life from all us house and bed bound myalgic encephalomyelitis sufferers he regulsrly denigrates? You can see how terrified he is from his photo.
     
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  6. A.B.

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    He did say he would be trying to improve the image of psychiatry. Apparently that means putting a "victim" spin on every point psychiatry has been criticized for in recent years.
     
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  7. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6

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    Or do they look down on it because it is based on little or no evidence?

    That said, the evidence for physically-based treatments is not as good as most people think. If anyone wants to see how regularly standard physical treatments are found to be ineffective, I recommend a free sub to Physician's First Watch. It gives concise summaries of the latest evidence, and is honest about disagreements and uncertainties.
     
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    New project? denying people pain medication?

    No it's because of people like him.
     
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    "prejudiced against mental health"???

    No, just resistant to quacks that have been bought off by insurance companies like UNUM. UNUM must have given him a grant to go after those who have seen the quackery of so much of "mental health" quacktioners. Or maybe they don't think they've gotten their money's worth from him lately, for the money they've already paid him.
     
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    With his new responsibilities, SW has to be seen to be doing something to address the steadily growing tarnish on psychiatry. If he does not, then he will lose his position. Expect more of this, or similar.
     
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  11. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Interesting you say this. Because if you have a mental illness insurance companies in the U.S. only have to pay you long term disability (LTD) for 2 years, and then you are on your own. So it seems that insurance companies DO have an incentive to keep psychological diagnoses from being greatly harmed!

    GG
     
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    It also may be in the balls, if you get kicked there.
     
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    NOT TODAY!
     
  14. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6

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    That quote also brought to my mind this scene from Goldfinger, with someone else substituted for Mr Bond. :D
     
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    adreno Senior Member

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    Or this scene from Monty Python:

    Monty Python - Hospital Sketch:
     
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  16. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6

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    and that reminds me of a friend whose insistence that she was in labour was repeatedly dismissed, with the consequence that she almost gave birth on the hospital floor. I guess the staff thought that the pain was all in her mind...

    and of course pain is partly in the mind - the brain interprets the nociceptive signals - as any neurologist should know. And maybe there are times when a short circuit is produced, or pain signals appear to come from amputated limbs, presumably indicating that the brain is receiving confusing signals, perhaps from another part of the body.

    But I think that is a far cry from what SW is claiming.
     
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    @ggingues Yes, that's part of my point. UNUM and other disability insurance companies would prefer to pay for mental disabilities rather than physical ones since that limits their payout to two years and cheap antidepressants & talk "therapy" rather than the lifetime disability most of us with ME experience.

    And it's not just in the US. UNUM is big in UK.
     
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  18. Tired of being sick

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    Let me see here

    Oh I know what I can do.

    Let me punch him in his face
    then
    I will try to convince him that it never happened
    and
    If I can't steer his psyche to my version of outcome
    well then
    I can just write him off as insane
    then
    ship him off to Ignoreville
     
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