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PACE trial, "piece of crap" or "thing of beauty"? (Poll)

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by Laelia, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. anne_likes_red

    anne_likes_red Senior Member

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    Flymon Wessely.
    And I bet he figured out how to vote twice.
     
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    We should seek some expert opinions by polling some scatologists. But not philosophical scatologists, they would accuse us of devising a moral dilemma.
     
  3. moblet

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    If I may muddy the waters a little further:

    In the Beginning was the Plan
    And then came the Assumptions
    And the Assumptions were without form
    And The Plan was completely without substance
    And the darkness was upon the face of the Workers
    and they spoke among themselves, saying
    "It is a crock of sh*t, and it stinketh."
    And the Workers went unto their Supervisors and sayeth
    "It is a pail of dung and none may abide by the odor thereof."
    And the Supervisors went unto their Managers and sayeth unto them,
    "It is a container of excrement and it is very strong,
    Such that none may abide by it."
    And the Managers went unto their Directors and sayeth,
    "It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide by its strength."
    And the Directors spoke among themselves, saying one to another,
    "It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very strong."
    And the Directors went unto the Vice Presidents and sayeth unto them,
    "It promotes growth and is very powerful."
    And the Vice Presidents went unto the President and sayeth unto him,
    "This new plan will actively promote the growth and efficiency of
    this Company, and these Areas in particular."
    And the President looked upon The Plan,
    And saw it was good, and The Plan became Policy.
     
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  4. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    Yay! Where would we be without sillyness? o_O

    Hopefully it won't be long before we're both able to engage much more in the "sensible" discussions. It's sad to think of all the brains and talent out there going to waste because of the devastating effects of this illness. When they start discovering some effective treatments (which they will), there is going to a huge 'awakening' of great minds amongst those previously very sick patients. The (already lively) ME community will grow exponentially and we will become a powerful force to be reckoned with! Now that's something to look forward to.
     
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  5. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    What! Another vote for beauty? We're going to need to get some fly screens installed around the polling booth.
     
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  6. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    Looks like we're gonna need a very large fly swatter for this one.
     
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  7. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    I just want to point out that this was a JOKE (in case it wasn't obvious)! I don't really want to see Flymon swatted!!
     
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    You're probably too late. It's almost certainly been parlayed into a death threat by now ;)
     
  9. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    Far, far too late, @Laelia , the Science Media Centre has just re-tweeted Flymon's tweet that he would feel safer infiltrating an ISIS-held stronghold than continuing to lurk on Phoenix Rising.
     
  10. suseq

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    Gosh, really hope my flash of lighthearted exuberance hasn't been misconstrued. Apologies if it has. Aim was to try and add a little happiness and joy, and moral support, as finding the 'Yay!' and the humour within each and every day of this relentless illness and the nonsense surrounding it is a blessing I think, and what helps me stay happy and positive, and hopefully others too.
     
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  11. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    You did and continue to do so @suseq ! :thumbsup::)

    Thanks for the smile! :rofl:

    (The Science Media Centre is grateful too as by giving them something to get excited about you are keeping them from the job centre queue for one more day :p )
     
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  12. suseq

    suseq

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    Thanks @Countrygirl. Thankfully the SMC seems to be doing an excellent job of losing itself all credibility. And that really deserves a Yay! as does this quote I've just found on the quote of the day thread:
    And may I add from personal experience 'with an incorrigible sense of humour!'

    (And so thrilled that I've finally managed to work out how to use mulitquote! Next challenge is to work out how to add pics/videos and emoji's [slowly working my way through the Wiki 'how to'] only to forget it all tomorrow/immediately!)
     
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  13. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    Oops! Sorry folks. Me bad :eek:
     
  14. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Don't worry @suseq, you're fine. We're referencing an aspect of Wessely's behaviour that hasn't been mentioned in this particular thread (but you can see it here). One of his tactics for undermining sufferers was to claim that he had received death threats from them (i.e. clearly this shows that they are mentally unhinged); the claim was rolled out again as part of the effort to avoid scrutiny of the PACE trial data, at which point it was investigated and found to be false.
     
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  16. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    https://theconversation.com/how-a-s...-was-doctored-adding-to-pain-and-stigma-74890
    How a study about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome was doctored, adding to pain and stigma


     

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