Lipkin's Monster ME/CFS Study: Microbes, Immunity & Big Data
The Microbe Discovery Project outlines an ambitious new study by top researchers that has collected patient samples, but needs desperately funds to complete the work.
Discuss the article on the Forums.

PACE trial, "piece of crap" or "thing of beauty"? (Poll)

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by Laelia, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    This was posted by @Yogi in a tweet in another thread (thanks!). I thought it deserved it's own thread.

    David Tuller has described the PACE trial as a "piece of crap". Simon Wessely described it as "a thing of beauty".

    So who do you agree with?

    Was the PACE trial a "piece of crap" or "thing of beauty"?

    Cast your vote here:
    http://riches2b.atspace.cc/#poll

    While you're there, check out the website too, it's utterly brilliant. And if you agree, share widely :thumbsup:

    [Edited to add further background/explanation to poll]
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
    Yogi, ahmo, TigerLilea and 6 others like this.
  2. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,942
    Likes:
    24,751
    C6n310vXUAA_SHW.jpg large.jpg

     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2017
    Yogi, Invisible Woman, Woolie and 2 others like this.
  3. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

    Messages:
    2,162
    Likes:
    14,953
    Germany
    Well I've cast my vote, but please don't ask me how I voted because I'm not saying.
     
  4. Barry53

    Barry53 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,198
    Likes:
    6,133
    UK
    If you were a fly you might be inclined to agree with both?
     
  5. alex3619

    alex3619 Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,913
    Likes:
    31,366
    Logan, Queensland, Australia
    Can we vote both ways? Its a beautiful example of a pile of crap.

    After all, a pile of crap is a thing.

    This study will be an exemplar in courses on how to not do research.
     
  6. alex3619

    alex3619 Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,913
    Likes:
    31,366
    Logan, Queensland, Australia
    Currently 659 crap, 2 beauty. Hey, isn't that more than the patients in the actual trial?

    I would love to see how the patients in the study would vote on this.
     
  7. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    Oh! How sneaky you are to keep us all guessing... :thumbdown:

    :rofl:
     
  8. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    :p

    Let's hope that no flies have learned to cast votes in polls. We certainly don't want them biasing the results of this most important poll.
     
    Yogi, Barry53, suseq and 1 other person like this.
  9. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    Now at 719 for crap, still 2 for beauty. I wonder who the 2 votes for beauty were from. Anyone prepared to come out and admit to voting for beauty?

    Me too. If there are any PACE trial participants out there who are willing to share their vote, please do let us know...
     
  10. suseq

    suseq

    Messages:
    56
    Likes:
    511
    London (UK)
    Thanks for making me laugh. It really is a stinky pile of poo!
     
  11. Barry53

    Barry53 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,198
    Likes:
    6,133
    UK
    Flies of course! :p
     
    TillyMoments, Solstice, Jan and 3 others like this.
  12. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    Yes it is!

    It would be nice to be engaging in the intellectual and thoughtful debate going on in some of the other threads. But unfortunately my very sick and tired brain means that I can only manage silly poo humour at the moment! :ill:
     
    Solstice, Jan, antherder and 4 others like this.
  13. Laelia

    Laelia Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes:
    444
    UK
    Of course! Silly me!
     
    Barry53 and trishrhymes like this.
  14. suseq

    suseq

    Messages:
    56
    Likes:
    511
    London (UK)
    Yay! Me too! Silliness is sometimes the only way to go. Take Care.
     
    Jan, trishrhymes and Laelia like this.
  15. wdb

    wdb Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,283
    Likes:
    2,247
    London
    Of course the psychs will just innocently tweak the 'winning' criteria to also include losing and declare victory.
     
    Solstice, Snow Leopard, alkt and 3 others like this.
  16. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member

    Messages:
    698
    Likes:
    3,508
    A thing of beauty....now up to 3 votes!

    763 people disagree
     
    Solstice, Valentijn, Joh and 3 others like this.
  17. Barry53

    Barry53 Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,198
    Likes:
    6,133
    UK
    One of my own home made sayings is "You have to be a little bit mad to stay sane".
     
    Jan, suseq, Laelia and 1 other person like this.
  18. antherder

    antherder a.k.a. Princess Dauer, Nematode Nation

    I'm proud to be part of the POOP Movement. (People Over Over Psychologising.)
     
    Jan, Invisible Woman, Joh and 2 others like this.
  19. lnester7

    lnester7 Seven

    Messages:
    2,149
    Likes:
    2,880
    USA
    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but since about all about Thousand votes are unanimous.... we all know... LOL
    :woot::woot::woot::woot:
     
  20. BruceInOz

    BruceInOz Senior Member

    Messages:
    152
    Likes:
    805
    Tasmania
    I don't know. This is @TiredSam we're talking about and three people did vote for Thing of Beauty. Maybe it was him.:cautious:
     

See more popular forum discussions.

Share This Page