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Opinion Piece: Current Psychiatry and its Discontents

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Webdog, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. Webdog

    Webdog Senior Member

    If you were looking for a thread to laugh at or rant about this weekend, I've done my best to serve up the goods. :cool:

    This opinion piece by the psychiatric-historian Robert Kaplan begins and ends whining about sorry state of his profession.

    Strangely (or predictably?), in the middle it lashes out at patient groups being a significant part of the problem, particularly the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome "lobby" (oddly referred to as "CSF").

    "Take a look at some of the threats being expressed on some websites devoted to and populated by CSF sufferers. The likelihood of such vehemence being translated into physical assault, perhaps even murder, cannot be excluded."

    We would be wise to steer clear of such online hives of scum and villainy. :oops::cautious::wide-eyed::thumbsup:

    "Illness Terrorist"... where do I get the t-shirt? :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    That one is news to me. But then again, I don't have CSF, so what would I know?! :D

    Are you sure this isn't satire?
     
  3. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Don't they say you should never give in to (illness) terrorists? Wessely has really let the side down here. Next thing you know we're going to be holding entire Middle Eastern countries to ransom.
     
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  4. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    Psychiatry and the misrepresentation of critics.
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member

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    Another one for the file...
     
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  6. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    Angry old man shouts at cloud.

    The problem with Psychiatry is that historically it's littered with many examples of accepting poor quality science and implementing it into standard practise - this is changing, but there seems to be a lot of resistance amongst the older practitioners who are unwilling to accept that their practise has been compromised for years due to relying on poor quality science. Things will change as these people retire and the younger generation take over (a generation raised on actually reading the underlying science since it is much more easily accessible now through the internet).
     
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  7. Webdog

    Webdog Senior Member

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  8. Joh

    Joh Inactivist

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    Haven't read through all of it, but it's appalling. Using words like "victim culture" and ridiculing PTSD ("pseudo-epidemic").

    My sister (a doctor!) sometimes says "CSF" by accident, and so does my father. I'm mostly bed-bound but my imaginary illness is apparently still not serious enough for them to at least remember its name. But to repeatedly not get it right in an article is even worse and extremely embarrassing.

    PR? At first I had to laugh really hard. To claim that we murder in the name of CSF (great, now I have an earworm)... But as funny as this sounds, I think there is a line crossed -- we are used to a lot, but even with ME there must be a line (somewhere at the horizon), what is appropriate to say about its sufferers.

    From the comments:
    :aghhh:
     
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  9. A.B.

    A.B. Senior Member

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    Sometimes I wish we had a well organized international patient organization that could take up the job of combating misinformation.

    The author obviously does not know that the story about violent activists was circulated to silence PACE trial critics and prevent independent scrutiny of the data (which later showed the CBT/GET to be ineffective, contrary to the claim by the authors).
     
  10. Webdog

    Webdog Senior Member

    This will come in time, I hope.
     
  11. Aurator

    Aurator Senior Member

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    Does the author have any competing interests, I wonder?
    Perhaps the savvy can follow the trail:
    http://rmkaplan.com.au/
     
  12. A.B.

    A.B. Senior Member

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    Nice find.

    Edward Shorter offers "CONSULTING IN LITIGATION AND CORPORATE PROBLEM-SOLVING." We can guess what kind of cases he specialises in.

    The conflicts of interest of Wessely, White, Sharpe, Chalder are known.

    Do the Dutch psychobabblers have conflicts of interest?
     
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    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    A history of assisting the denial of motor-vehicle collision injury claims?
     
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  14. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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    Fact is psychiatrists are taught to deal with violence as part of their training, it's almost expected that they will be faced with violence. ME and CFS are actually unusual compared to quite a number of psychiatric conditions where threats of violence are often carried out.

    The handful of angry militant ME and CFS patients (who don't understand how unhelpful threatening behaviour really is), don't actually carry out their threats because they're often too ill to organise anything or even leave the house. ;)
     
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  15. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards "Gibberish"

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    What a gem. As a festering, if not venomous, ME terrorist I am amazed that my cover has been blown like this. Maybe the reference to CSF reflects the fact that he might do well to have his CSF checked. Someone suggested he was old but he seems to be quite middle aged. Maybe Alzheimer's is setting in early, poor chap. Better get those plugs in for Simon quick or the knighthood might be too late? This is a complete farce. Kelly Anne Conway and alternative facts eat your heart out - this is where the real nuthouse resides. I should be more circumspect with my language as an eminent emeritus from one of the leading medical schools in the world. But when you get pantomime stuff like this what can you do?
     
  16. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    I'm pretty sure it is. He's cleverly written it in the style of a Cultural Studies undergrad who's been doing too many drugs when he should have been reading. Nice pastiche, mate.
     
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  17. Alvin2

    Alvin2 If humans were rational...

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    Damn, no wonder your chronically fatigued, anyone living without cerebrospinal fluid is gonna be extremely ill :woot:
     
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  18. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    Another festering, venomous psych using the internet for their smear campaign. The likelihood of such vehemence being translated into further suffering for those affected by ME cannot be excluded.
     
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  19. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    Oi! I lecture Cultural Studies undergrads. I resent the venemous implication that they should do any reading.
     
  20. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards "Gibberish"

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    Good forensic work there.
     

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