Fluge & Mella's pre-trial study highlights life-changing potential of rituximab
Sasha gives the background and Simon gives the interpretation of the latest study from Haukeland, published today...
Discuss the article on the Forums.

Olive Leaf Extract

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by Michelle, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. velha508

    velha508

    Messages:
    64
    Likes:
    4
    Hi Hysterical,

    Thanks for responding. i started using betaine HCl for low stomach acid, I was told to start with one pill and increase by 1 per meal per day until I felt acid reflux. When I started I needed 2 per meal. After 2 weeks at that dose I began to feel it was too much acid (stomach burning, reflux, etc.) so I cut back to 1 per meal. I could visually see the improved digestion in my stool (less or no visible undigested food). I continued on this dosage for ~1 month. At that time I started the olive leaf to treat overgrowth of yeast and some bacteria. After taking it, I noted my digestion getting worse, so I tried more betaine HCl, while taking the full dosage of olive leaf I can take 4-6 betaine HCl per meal and have no stomach pain and no reflux.

    I was running out of olive leaf and cut back on my dosage trying to stretch what I had until the next batch arrived - within a couple of days I needed to decrease my betaine HCl supplementation, then increase it again when back on the full dosage of olive leaf.

    Thanks,
    Velha
     
  2. velha508

    velha508

    Messages:
    64
    Likes:
    4
    Hi cfs since 1998,

    This is a good point. I take probiotics, but I was only taking them once per day, at night, figuring I was just killing them all day long with the treatments. I'll try adding more in during the daytime following my olive leaf and before eating (very inconvenient, especially with all the timed things I have already - before, after, during eating, yikes...)

    I always take it on an empty stomach. Please see my reply about to Hysterical Woman, I noted a definite correlation in my production of stomach acid. I also do not know how or why this happened, but I am fairly certain it did. I was not adding or changing anything else during this period.


    To those discussing changes in blood pressure,

    I think olive leaf may have lowered my already low blood pressure a little bit - my blood pressure has typically been 105-110/65-70. I've been taking olive leaf for 2 months and have noted a gradual increase in some symptoms of low blood pressure I have had in the past - I feel faint and my eyes start to black over when standing too quickly or bending and getting up to standing, this happens immediately and then seems to correct itself within a minute or so. At a recent doctor's visit my blood pressure was 96/60, this doesn't seem like a large difference, but I thought it might be enough for me to become susceptible to noticing mild drops in pressure when I stand...

    Velha
     
  3. Hysterical Woman

    Hysterical Woman Senior Member

    Messages:
    855
    Likes:
    6
    East Coast
    Hi Velha,

    Thanks for your clear explanation regarding both your stomach acid and blood pressure issues in connection with the olive leaf. Because you seem to have found a workaround for at least the stomach acid situation you must feel that it is worth it to continue to take it? You started it to treat yeast?

    Thanks for sharing with the forum.

    Take care,

    Maxine
     
  4. silicon

    silicon Senior Member

    Messages:
    148
    Likes:
    72
    HW,

    That's quite a story! And definitely it was hard, if not impossible, to see something like that coming. Sometimes it's like walking on eggshells!

    silicon
     
  5. Hysterical Woman

    Hysterical Woman Senior Member

    Messages:
    855
    Likes:
    6
    East Coast
    Hi silicon,

    Nope, couldn't see it coming. Love your analogy about "walking on eggshells", a perfect description.

    Take care,

    HW
     
  6. velha508

    velha508

    Messages:
    64
    Likes:
    4
    Hi Maxine,

    You know, I was very uncomfortable with the fact that I found I needed such higher doses of stomach acid. I was comforted enough by it's apparent return after stopping the olive leaf briefly to make me brave enough to continue. I guess I felt I really didn't have a choice as I felt the olive leaf was working as an antifungal (I had flares of my yeast allergy symptoms during initial and increasing doses) and I really needed help in that aspect.

    I believe I'm supposed to take it for a minimum of 3 months at full dosage, this may increase depending on symptoms. I think we will do an additional stool test prior to stopping or deciding where to go next.

    Take care,
    Velha
     
  7. Hysterical Woman

    Hysterical Woman Senior Member

    Messages:
    855
    Likes:
    6
    East Coast
    Hi Velha,

    Thanks for the additional information. Sometimes we have to make tradeoffs. I believe, like you, that the olive leaf can be very beneficial. It's sounds good that you are doing some testing and reasoning before deciding how to proceed. I just wish there was sometimes an easier way with all this stuff.

    Good Luck,

    Maxine
     
  8. wciarci

    wciarci Wenderella

    Messages:
    264
    Likes:
    3
    Connecticut
    Olive leaf extract allowed me to clean, clean, clean and host Easter dinner

    I have always been a believer in olive leaf extract but after reading so much about XMRV and HHV 6 I decided to take two tablets every day, not just when I was feeling ill. I don't have new energy but I have a longer duration of the energy I have, albeit with rests, frequently. After not cleaning my house for over a year, I have cleaned and I mean cleaned it. Washed walls, ceilings, showers, floors and the dreaded windows for two days straight, went food shopping and hosted a large Easter Dinner. Tired but no crash? Purchased at Prohealth, high potency, 500 mg, two pills in the morning. I am thinking of adding garlic, but I am a teacher and students are so sensitive to smells. Could it be the olive leaf or just the weather? High barometric pressure rather than the low that has plagued New England for almost a year! I just had to share, in the hope that it is indeed 'the reason' and that others can benefit from it.

    Peace, love and understanding

    Wendy:innocent1:
     
  9. cfs since 1998

    cfs since 1998 *****

    Messages:
    577
    Likes:
    5
    I have been on olive leaf extract since February 2009. I am on 15 capsules per day (500mg of extract standardized to 15% oleuropein). I strongly feel it is helping to suppress some virus, because of a tremendous reaction at the beginning which recurs whenever I stop it--the same symptoms reported by Valcyte/Valtrex CFS patients. But it has not brought me significant improvement despite the high dosage for a long time. It may just take a very long time of many years to work or it may never bring me improvement by itself. I think maybe it's hitting "a" virus but not the right one.
     
  10. JAM

    JAM Jill

    Messages:
    419
    Likes:
    463
    Are you still taking the OLE? If so what have your results been? I've been taking it for 5 months at a lower dose, but have noticed huge improvement, still symptomatic, but functioning for at least a few hours a day. What I've read about the pharma anti-viral patterns say that an average of 2.8 years is needed to return someone to "healthy" viral loads and then recurrence happens within a couple of years. My guess is that continuing with a low dose after "healthy" levels are reached may prevent recurrence, but it is hard to find people who have continued for that long. Any info you have would be appreciated.
     
  11. rwac

    rwac Senior Member

    Messages:
    149
    Likes:
    43
  12. picante

    picante Senior Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes:
    285
    Helena, MT USA
    I've been taking OLE since late April. Suddenly I've got thyroid pain/ sore lymph nodes this evening one hour after taking it. Could this be an autoimmune attack?

    Yes, I have Hashi's (high TPO antibodies). Yes, I'm taking thyroid hormone (T3).
     
  13. Violeta

    Violeta Senior Member

    Messages:
    707
    Likes:
    289
    Good question, has anyone else had this experience? I am taking OLE, too, and having good results if I don't take too much. I think it lowers blood pressure by increasing nitric oxide, which relaxes the arteries.
     
  14. picante

    picante Senior Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes:
    285
    Helena, MT USA
    Thanks, @Violeta. I searched and found this interesting remark:

    http://www.cpmedical.net/articles/olive-leaf-extract-natural-defense-against-biowarfare
     
  15. Violeta

    Violeta Senior Member

    Messages:
    707
    Likes:
    289
    That is very interesting! I am sure I have endotoxins.

    I like this sentence from the article: "Finally, it should be emphasized that the components of olive leaf extract inactivated every cold and flu virus they were tested against, indicating Olive Leaf should occupy an important place in the medicine cabinet."
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2015
  16. Gondwanaland

    Gondwanaland Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,528
    Likes:
    1,525
    @Violeta @picante do you ladies take OLE on its own or combined with coconut oil?
     
  17. Gondwanaland

    Gondwanaland Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,528
    Likes:
    1,525
    I think it is a possibility :(
     
  18. Violeta

    Violeta Senior Member

    Messages:
    707
    Likes:
    289
    I take it in capsule form and I also have a tincture that I add to tea. I bought mine from Olivus, and they also sell it in a tea form and something like a tincture but sort of like a syrup, I forget exactly what they call it.
     
    Gondwanaland likes this.
  19. picante

    picante Senior Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes:
    285
    Helena, MT USA
    Mine is in a capsule, and coconut oil is a really good idea! Thanks, Izzy :thumbsup:.
     
    Gondwanaland likes this.

See more popular forum discussions.

Share This Page