The guys on this forum definitely get it! I should have made it clear from the beginning that I meant healthy men who never experienced this torture. The guys on this forum have given me a lot of support and understanding and I'm very grateful to therm. Passover is over and somehow I survived it with pain and crashing. I was just thinking how glad I am that it's over and I can start to rest it out and rebuild some strength and one of my daughters called me that she has wok tomorrow and the preschool for her little daughter is closed, do I think I can help out with watching her for a while. This is the daughter who I thought has the most understanding. I hate being put into this position time and time again to have to say no. So I end up being the unhelpful grandmother but, I don't have a choice. What can I do - this seems to be my destiny. I think I would be better off always saying no because if you give them a little, they always expect more. It's just not in my nature to be that way but, I don't see another way out. Except one that I've been thinking about a lot lately.