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Niacin for sleep

Discussion in 'Sleep' started by Mary, May 5, 2014.

  1. Mary

    Mary Senior Member

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    I recently started taking niacin - 500 mg. twice a day, and was very surprised to find my sleep improving, falling asleep easier, sleeping deeper, and going back to sleep more quickly when I wake up in the middle of the night. I had been taking niacinamide for quite awhile which didn't seem to affect me at all, good or bad, but when I switched to straight niacin, the effect was almost immediate. It also has lowered my blood pressure (which was already okay) some 10 points or so.

    I take the morning dose after breakfast and evening dose about an hour before bed.

    I read that niacin or niacinamide, or maybe both, affect the GABA receptors in the brain. I also read they affect the benzo receptors (if there is such a thing!). It's been used to help with benzo withdrawal. One study I read stressed very strongly that only niacinamide was helpful here but my experience was the opposite. It's also possible I had a crappy brand of niacinamide. In any event, I'm sticking with what's working - plain niacin - for now.

    I do get the flushing but it's less than when I first started.

    High doses of niacin can hurt the liver but my doctor said he's never had any problems with the above dose. Also, don't take extended release or time release or long-acting niacin - that's where problems arose with the liver. Also, don't take small doses throughout the day. Constant bathing of the liver in niacin seems to be a factor in liver damage.

    Niacin is also supposed to very good for anxiety.

    Mary
     
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  2. Beyond

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    Awesome that you improved sleep, that is a major breaktrough in healing! However,1000 mgs of Niacin arenĀ“t an awful lot? If your doctor says is good then I understand is probably not something to be worried about.

    What brand was the niacinamide and which brand is the niacin you take now?

    I know of a woman in the adrenal fatigue forum that posted a significant improvement in all sleep parameters with large doses of niacin, like you. I gotta try it!! Today I have a slight headache all along that gets worse with activity thanks to crappy crappy sleep. :cautious:

    Here! http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2159249#i
     
  3. Mary

    Mary Senior Member

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    I did read a fair amount about niacin and dosages, and 1,000 mg. a day isn't that high, and I did check with my doctor re liver issues as he is one of the very few doctors who knows anything about nutrition.

    The niacinamide I was taking was Swanson brand. I don't know if it was the brand, or what, but it did nothing for me.

    I've been taking GNC niacin, also took Nature's Way brand, both were good and helped with sleep.

    Also, I would not get the no-flush niacin - in the past it did nothing for me. I don't like the flush, but it seems to be necessary.

    If you google "niacin sleep" you can find more. I'm just surprised that in years of researching sleep issues, I've never come across niacin before. I know what crappy crappy sleep is like, and hope you get some help soon!
     
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    Hi @Mary thanks for posting this!!
    I have been thinking so much about Niacin. I did test low in it after doing the active b12/methylfolate regimen for awhile, which I am no longer taking the methyfolate- anyways, I feel, by symptoms and the testing, that my body wants more B1,B2 & B3 right now.
    Dr. Klinghardt has written about Niacin for lyme and candida. He says to work up to 3000 mg/day, but I never have. He also seems to think niacinamide is ok, but I know others do not.
    I've been taking niacinamide & am planning to switch tomorrow to the flushing type.
    Can you please let me know what happens with the flush? I'm scared. I have looked online but I am having a hard time finding out what symptoms the "flush," actually causes...
    I have been a little scared to take any extra B's lately since taking more of the B12/methylfolate caused me to end up imbalanced. Don't want to do the same thing only different : ) !
     
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    Hi Tiger Lily - The flush just means your skin will flush, temporarily turn red - niacin dilates the capillaries, but it doesn't hurt, it's not dangerous. It might last half an hour. Your skin can also feel a little warm or even itchy but again nothing serious. If I were you I would start with 100 mg. twice a day, you will experience the flush but probably not that severe and then maybe work up to 500. Or 100 may be all you need. If you take it with food it's supposed to ease the flushing. I also read that taking an aspirin at the same time will stop the flushing although I have never tried this.

    I also recently started taking B1 - 100 mg. (in addition to a B complex, and I still take extra methylfolate and methylcobalamin). I think the B1 is helping with energy, though it's too soon to tell. I've had a lot going on and have been sick so not a good time to tell exactly what is happening. I've read that B1 is supposed to help with the utilization of magnesium and if it is helping with energy, that is probably why.

    For what it's worth, I don't do well with extra B2 so for that am just sticking with what is in the B complex.

    Did you take extra potassium with the B12/methlfolate regimen? I found this was crucial for me. My potassium levels dropped with the extra methylfolate as my body started to use more, as Freddd pointed out would happen. If I had not taken extra potassium (which I am still taking), I could not have tolerated it. But am so glad I knew about the potassium because overall the methylfolate and extra potassium have given me more energy.

    Mary
     
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    Thanks for posting this, Mary. I had never heard of niacin for sleep. It's worth a shot.
     
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    perchance dreamer - I stumbled across niacin for sleep by accident. I've done a TON of research and reading about sleep over the past 12 years, and never read about this before, and it is helping me very much. I also take l-theanine, lots of magnesium and Natrol brand sublingual melatonin, but this just seems to make everything work better. I am so pleasantly surprised and just hope it keeps working!
     
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    Hi @TigerLilea : ) thank you- I was worried because I have low blood pressure- I will try it at a super low dose. Thanks!!
     
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    Hi @Mary thanks for the info!! I'm not doing the methyfolate anymore; it caused severe immune dysfunction for me after 1.5 months. But I also have lyme, bartonella and adrenal fatigue, so I'm seeing a good lyme doctor (for the first time & tomorrow!) to try and see how to best resolve. I didn't take potassium at that time- I was tested for it and didn't test low at all.
     
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    Just following up - I got the flush & I seem to like it : ) haha unexpected! Maybe because I'm always chilly. Anyways, thanks again for this info, I can feel it doing more than the Niacinamide.
     
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    If it helps sleep please report back! ;)
     
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    Sorry @Beyond -- in my gaba-like haze I forgot to report, that it did indeed cause a gaba-like haze : ))) @Mary is absolutely right- at least for me - and granted I was super low in Niacin, but I did not realize that the flushing type would effect me so much differently from the Niacinamide. Dr. Klinghardt had written that they are both good, but that is not my experience. Flushing niacin made me relaxed and crash at bedtime when usually I have a strong urge to tinker around on the internet. Last night sleep def. won over internet : )
    I thought I should also share this relevant Mercola article about niacin & detox that @slayadragon put on her facebook pages. Really good info : ) !

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...social&utm_content=lead&utm_campaign=20140504
     
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    Tiger Lily - I'm so glad the niacin helped you! Like you, it was much different for me than niacinamide, which did nothing for me. I also read another article about niacin helping with detox - it's still amazing to me that after all I've read about sleep and detoxing for so many years, have never seen anything about niacin helping before!

    Mary
     
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