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News: Remote-Control for your Vagus

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by roller, Feb 8, 2016.

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  1. roller

    roller wiggle jiggle

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    The ear tickler that helps you lose weight: Electrical pulses interfere with appetite signals between the stomach and brain
    • The device clips on to the skin inside the ear, where you'd put headphones
    • Uses electrical pulse to stimulate nerve that links the brain with stomach
    • Pulses interfere with appetite signals so patients don't feel as hungry
    By ROGER DOBSON FOR THE DAILY MAIL
    PUBLISHED:23:58 GMT, 8 February 2016|UPDATED:00:05 GMT, 9 February 2016

    The stimulator - NeuroCoach II Stim - consists of a tiny electrode clipped to the external part of the ear and connected to a hand-held generator that sends electrical impulses.

    The approach is known as vagus nerve stimulation. It targets the vagus nerve, which runs from the brain to the abdomen and relays messages to and from the heart, lungs and digestive system. It also has branches in the face.

    One of its functions is to pass on messages telling the brain whether the stomach is empty or full.
    But it is also involved in regulating processes such as breathing, heart rate, blood pressure and mood, and has been tested as a treatment for conditions as varied as migraines, hypertension and depression.

    In a study at the University of Minnesota, researchers found that all the 14 patients who had received vagus nerve stimulation to treat their depression also lost weight, according to the International Journal of Obesity.

    The stimulation is usually given via a surgically implanted electrode into an area such as the neck, chest or gut to directly touch the nerve and affect signals. More recently, external devices have been developed for a less invasive way of treating patients.

    Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3437853/The-ear-tickler-helps-lose-weight-Electrical-pulses-interfere-appetite-signals-stomach-brain.htm
     
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  2. Skippa

    Skippa Anti-BS

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    Well.. I can say one thing.

    I'd be really interested how this device interferes with PEM, or brain fog and stuff. And maybe IBS.
     
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    perhaps, we will have dial pads.. one day... soon...

    for hormones, neurotransmitters, nerves and and and...

    maybe we can send us emotions via facebook then?
     
  4. GhostGum

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    Having had TMJ issues for years and being pretty sure pressure on the vagus nerves, especially the right side one, has been a big part of my problems I would definitely try this. My PEM over the years has always been related to developing very detrimental pressure around the jaw and face. I believe the response is likely linked to methylation/genetic predisposition as well, some TMJ sufferers get good results from B vitamins and B12; coincidence? I think not.
     
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    surprising how distinct our body halfes respond.
    we are two halfes.
    and meds act differently in them, in terms of distribution and intensity.

    perhaps this has to do with vagus (++) nerves, perhaps with the heart causing faster blood flow along the left?
    or both?

     
  6. Mary

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    @roller - this is very interesting. There is research about vagus nerve stimulation helping with head injuries, rheumatoid arthritis and other things - it's definitely worth exploring! I think if it helps you lose weight, great, but potentially has much greater benefit --
     
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  7. Lou

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    @roller I tried googling this device and found nothing other than the news article you linked. But yes, I'd consider getting the NeuroCoach ll Stim if it was available for purchase and not prohibitively expensive. It could be my imagination, but I've manually --jiggled thumb under jawline-- stimulated vagus nerve and seemed to get positive short term results.

    Something I'd need to watch is weight loss, couldn't afford much of that.

    Is there anything you can tell us about possible availability of device?
     
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  8. roller

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    inventor: laserspineinstitute ?

    perhaps it can be bought from the laserspine-institute (US)
    http://www.laserspineinstitute.com/
    https://www.facebook.com/laserspineinstitute
    https://www.laserspineinstitute.com/spinal_orthopedic_procedures/neurostim/

    there is a clinical trial (french uni hospital) with the neuro stim II coming up: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02648191

    other info:
    Neuro-Stim System Neurostim FDA K140530


    unsure, if really related:
    https://www.facebook.com/neurocoach.jon
    their website http://www.neurocoach.com/ doesnt show anything for me
    perhaps their youtube channel
     
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    Lou Senior Member

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    I just chatted with Ron B. at Laser Spine Institute. He seemed unfamiliar with any external vagus nerve stimulator, specifically the NeuroCoach ll Stimulator. He said their care involves surgery.

    If it was for sale it'd probably be easier to find.
     
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