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New RS starch challenge! Is it a second Key we have been looking for?

Discussion in 'The Gut: De Meirleir & Maes; H2S; Leaky Gut' started by student, May 20, 2015.

  1. student

    student Senior Member

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    Hi everybody,

    Lets see what a second thread can offer. I am student and still learning much. My hero is „evalesen“ (german Forum) worker that has transfered so much of your PR Forum knowledge to our people in my small european contry.

    What do I want? Not much – see this.

    Background: Second rectal entry to feed the bowl bacteria well. Were the road became narow there can still be the verry diffrent way of entry. It was said that Dr. Klinghard and others are using the klistier to the rectum. Come and see my way of using simpel syringe (post II: will give you my details).

    The lower rectum can be fed from the anus. For most people this can be possible: to hold, whatever you put in - for more than one hour. Bowl bacteria is desperatly waiting to be fed. With this II. Carb‘ Material impact this can easily made possible. Some of wou will now be able to give a fearly strong bowl impact with this reverse acess. Carfully try out what dose you can handle here.

    But there is this second tool. Lets learn how we can stopp, what you have startet here? We can introduce a „Hand break“ – that is very much likely to finish everything. The process will stop with anything that can open your bowls. My most simpel towl can be bitter salt from the pharmacist. I sugest the same way for its application (see post II). After the (early) stopping – any of the expected reactions will mostly be minor. So please take time for this thorough testing. As CFS klients we never go into something, that we have not tested in low dose – for your first 3- 4 days here. So I do sugest that you deliberatly plan to stopp very early. And learn the details of this until it becomes yours. And please- as always: Start low and (short?) slow!


    So please buy – the bitter (Glaubers) salt at the pharmacist. It helps opening your bowls. This is the way to stop everything that is not wanted.

    Disclaimer: Any has known rectal disease, than keep away from this therapie. In your case it is verry likely that bowl can be seriously hurt. Please see your doctor for any advice. People with known Crons deseas and ulcer colitis (or any form of aktiv leaky gut) are exkluded to use this option. To howm this aplyes, please talk through thorougly every step that you plan with your Doctor. We have to discuss the danger of hurting your rectum (see post III.). These question are important. Because with CFS klients closure time of any superficail bouwl wound can be 4- 12 times longer. The bottle nack in this wound healing is found to be your gut epithelial cell replication. It is said that especially this factor will be positively influenced by your good progress of your metylation therapie.

    My regards ;) student

    Information will be given.

    God will never tempt anyone here.
     
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    student Senior Member

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    I used these most simpel tools: open/ close syringe 2 ml or 5 ml.

    (1) My change was @the syringe. I had cut the front 1- 2 mm bit open. Take vaselin (fat) introduce (see No II) it into rectum. That’s was done. A good cleaning afterwards.

    (2) A filling of my syringe: RS starch powder and others.

    Disclaimer: This I can only do now, because I have trained my self with a few other things. See @PDF

    I have learned to Stay with my larger open syringe (5 ml) for a while. My strategy can vary. Some of my days I have added fluid (plain water) with the ordenary 2 ml syringe. Probably there can be more bowl activity when water is applied.
     

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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    @student Aside from your disclaimer, the protocol that you are describing needs careful research from anyone who thinks of trying it. As we have seen in the original RS threads, people respond in many different and unexpected ways. Do you have any links to published studies or research on this manner of taking RS?

    Sushi
     
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    First day – my experience

    Yes @Ripley – he was quoted: Good aim. This page here can be used to develop the practicallities for: This effective RS enema (rectal) therapie.

    Let me ask for some time, and leaf room for the STARCH experiance. After that we can come back to your questions and pracitcalities.

    In my hands that will be time consuming. After 3 hours of practicing RS enema. The next goal is a longer Therapie secion of 5 and half hours. When Bacteria takes 20 min to multiply, than I want 16 (rather than 9 ) cycles.

    Today I ate hot and cold potato (RS 3) 2x 3 spoon full (by mouth). Ist my 2nd day (05.21.) with starting starch. Rectal: 4, 5 spoon full applied with open syringe. Additional 25 ml water of water were applied at start and every 45 min.

    The body position was feet up 1/ 2 the time. Later knees at my chin and trying to relax most of my muscles all the time through (big challange). The whole time the anus was positioned 40- 45 cm higher than my back. I would reason for effetivness in this approach the rectum would best be upside down. So that my body position would possably inable the starch to fall ‚down‘ into the higher right colon, with its corner conection towards transvers colon. Therapy was uneventfull. Not other than energy and time consuming. So it will not apply well for a week CFS klient.

    My bowl reaktion began to show only slight activity reactions in the last 15 minutes. Stool contained water and lots of fluid, with only little of loos material. But the first challange was clearly met. It had started to mingle the big plug of material was infiltrated with bowl bacteria. So I will wait and see how the night goes – after therapie secion.

    Regards your student

    ps. Yes @South. Let's see what challenging implications for the practise - as well as new rooms of thinking this form of rectal starch application - can lead us to. Thanks for your intrest so far.

    A big hallo @Gondaw. (can not remember names well. B6 lack) thanks for comment. Yes a lokal application. Verry good - I am not awar what we can do for CRONS problems. Maybe there will develop specialist knoledge. A Starch and Mixing with quite a few of the local bowl calming substances - could be easy to handle. But- in inflamation - let all practicallities totally be restricted to the doctors hand. I do wellom all thoughts of theorie verry verry much so.

    Great - we will have work to do. And thrilling thinking. My fingers tickel. I like this oportunity. Lets transform this into a platform. That can start influence our owne bloul therapie. It will be great fun to develop this active threat together.

    And - again. Thanks @Sushi.. I start getting tired. - I will come back to yours. You are special. First guest here. Thanks a lot.
     
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    @Newspapers : Pizzaservice, hallo? „I order one pizza Margeritha.“

    Shal I cut in 6 ore 8 peaces? „Six please. eight peaces I can not handle!“


    What is - REVERS for CFS
     
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    Yes, this is thrilling thinking! :rolleyes:

    Keep us posted Student. I am just a beginner with resistant starch and cannot attempt this yet - I'm still only taking tiny quantities swallowed, with tiny bits of fiber, as I have a history of bad digestion reactions from fiber and therefore must go slowly.

    But I know there are people out there who might be ready to try this.
     
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    There can be a thread that wants to lead forward to practice – B.u.t…. .w.a.i.t… a.n.d… ..s.t.o.p

    @dearest Sushi: Yes, The Unexpected. Is much more close and grips us more often than we would think. In half- it already grips many of us more than 100 times a day. So there is signals for great crush, that can be near. In CFS alone lies great danger, and consequenses are verry often far to complex to think and also lead to the most difficult results – that again is allways verry verry near. Sometimes only lightend by great medical expertise and high doses of Supplements at hand. So let me remind everybody here first – and urgent: There is lots of opportunities of Pacings that we still take for granted. Times of early rest. Moments of consequently lying down. Decisions to not dare this – next therapie. We have to stear towards the save Zone. We CFS klients verry often have to pull out most early. Please learn to respect the smalest signs of your body immune system. More so there still is greatest responsability in every branch of our CFS therapie. Let me say this in the save platform of PR Forum first.

    We spend some time – to work

    … (on) this warning. Would you please – leave room (just these kind of post’s - please)

    Wait – one or two days – so that readers get the clear message. Just at the beginning of this thread.

    Thanks sushi.- this is not disclaiming. It is felt reality. ...
     
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    Yes, eat the normal RS starch:

    I have filled a plastic bottel with starch. It sits inside like a stone. The End Colon, where the Apendix sits is best place for RS starch. There it will have the capacity to protect the development of our healthy and very early childhood bacteria. Very much likely the RS starch in my plastic bottel. This shoes to me that filling is from the mouth is the most important. So whatever your plans are do not forget to continue that.
     

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