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New home self-diagnostic tool analyses a droplet of saliva, blood, or a nasal swab in real time

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Waverunner, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Waverunner

    Waverunner Senior Member

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    Well, you don't need to pay anything in order to use the bluetooth, so there are no additional costs and this is a great opportunity to replace your mobile phone. The additional costs however occur with the wands, which are needed for every test.They cost 4 to 10 dollars. So if you run 5 influenza tests, you have to spend $ 50.

    We also should not forget, that this device is in the beginning. The company claims that it will add a lot of other parameters in the future. So if competition increases, prices will come done, contrary to the drug field, where nearly no competition exists.

    I completely agree with your last sentence, cutting out the middle man saves a lot of money and will hopefully boost the individual, patient centered healthcare.
     
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    For some of us $130 is a lot of money that could be spent towards such trivial things as food and housing.

    Add to that the cellphone provider and you are talking about more money.

    Hopefully, the company will see the light and make this app more. user friendly.

    TBH, I have not read about the app.so have no idea what it does, but I don't think that takes away from my comment.

    Barb
     
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  3. ggingues

    ggingues $10 gift code at iHerb GAS343 of $40

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    Am I reading what people are wrtine here correctly?:

    So you can just buy the phone but not subscribe to a phone plan, right?

    I get the gov't sponsored phone, I only get 250 mins/month with 1,000 texts. So not looking to buy some data plan!

    GG

    PS I also just use a laptop with WiFi, but am interested in this, would a tablet make more sense?
     
  4. Waverunner

    Waverunner Senior Member

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    The cheap smartphone costs $ 50, only if you want a better smartphone you could spend $ 130 for a Motorola. I have no idea who brought up the myth, that you need a cellphone provider to buy a smartphone. That is not true. You can buy whatever smartphone you want and you don't need a monthly plan or whatever. It will work. Whoever has the money to buy Cue and wands, can also afford to buy a smartphone.
     
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  5. adreno

    adreno 3% neanderthal

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    I have to agree that most people interested in such a device will likely have a smartphone already.

    Putting a monitor, interface and software in the device would not only make it more expensive, but also much harder to update and add new features.
     
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    I àm still confused but keep in mind I am not tech savvy when it comes to smartphones. How can you get any mobile phone without a provider? Did I misread your post?

    You can get a smartphone by itself but that can cost up to $600 + dollars.

    Barb
     
  7. adreno

    adreno 3% neanderthal

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    You can get a used smartphone on Ebay for around 50 bucks.
     
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  8. barbc56

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    That's interesting. I'm learning something here.


    Are provider costs higher with smartphones since they have upgraded applications than other cell phones (dumb phones? :rolleyes:).

    Barb
     
  9. adreno

    adreno 3% neanderthal

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    Probably, yes. They use more data, and also generate more support (helpline) questions.
     
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  10. Waverunner

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    It only depends on your tariff plan. If you choose a tariff plan without mobile internet and only use your smartphone with internet at home (WLAN), there will be no additional costs compared to your current cell phone. If you want to access internet with your smartphone while you're away from home, you need a tariff plan which includes mobile internet and those start around $5 per month. These tariff plans are completely voluntary and your smartphone works perfectly without one (the only drawback is, that you are not connected to the internet while you are away from home). You can buy smartphones on ebay or amazon. Only the flagships from Samsung, Apple, HTC, Sony cost around $500 to $800. You get other flagships like the One Plus (http://oneplus.net/) for $299. The One Plus is a hot deal which is faster and better, than most of the other smartphones from the big brands. As has been pointed out however, you get much cheaper smartphones starting at $50 on ebay. If you want a brand manufacturer you can either buy a used or old smartphone or you can pay $130 for a new Motorola Moto E for example.
     
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    To get a smartphone without a provider search for sim free and/or unlocked phones online - there are also good second hand deals around nowdays, or you can go for a cheaper new one ...
     
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    Ah, I think I've got it! Thanks to all and apologies if this derailed the thread.

    Barb
     
  13. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I doubt that replacing the bluetooth stuff with a digital readout would increase the cost of the device. As long as it increased it less that the cost of a smartphone, it would still be a better value.

    Spoken like someone who has never been on a tight budget.

    Actually I can't afford the $199 plus wands right now. If I could, I would feel that I was getting value for my money. Even if I could afford the $199, I wouldn't necessarily have another $50 (a 25% increase in price) for a smartphone. Paying $50 for a smartphone or tablet, which I have no other use for, to be used as an interface to the Cue does not strike me as good value for the money.


    I do not have $130 to blow on a smartphone!
     
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    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    My pulse oximeter has a LED display that shows my pulse, Sp02, signal strength, and, when needed, low battery indicator. It cost $65. I doubt that $50 of that was the cost of the display.
     
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    Pulse oximeters have a very simple, low resolution display, which is also pretty thick.

    As another example, I recently bought an Alpha Mio for easier heart rate tracking. All versions have bluetooth, but the version with a display is $199 and the version without a display is $99.

    A built-in display has a big impact on the cost of many items, and probably has a bigger impact on relatively new products produced by only one source.
     
  16. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    So put a simple, low resolution display on the Cue. As Waverunner noted, all it needs to display is the value name and actual value.

    I find the idea of a data device that can not display the data absurd. I am really bummed to find that they do the same thing with heart rate monitors. I would like to have one. The pulse oximeter has its limitations, but at least it shows me my pulse.
     
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    One day you might have 5 different devices. Instead of all of them having their own readout and interface systems, it would make the most sense (even economically) to just use a smartphone or tablet for all of them.

    Making display that shows statistics in a easily readable format is not simple. People like graphics, not numbers. You also need interface systems (buttons, menus) to interact. In a sense, those are simple operating system. Smartphones provide all this already.

    I can tell you right now that this is the way the world is going, so you might as well go with it, rather than against it.
     
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  18. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I can't imagine carrying around a smartphone or tablet to watch my heart rate. IIRC, the heart rate monitors with a readout, have it on a watch band which would be much more convenient.

    If I had 5 different devices, what are the odds that they would all work with the same brand of smartphone/tablet?
     
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    Yes, another option would be smartwatches. Those are not cheaper than phones though.


    Very high. Most devices are compatible with Android and IOS. It's the OS that matters, not the brand.
     
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    This is all very exciting and I think it is coming rapidly. However, at the present time, there are not enough tests available for many of us to justify the smartphone or similar device. The phone would cost us as much or more than the test we want. With a wider selection of tests available and more monitor-type devices that will change. We aren't there yet though.
     

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