Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by A.B., Jul 4, 2016.
i can foresee a long legal battle with various vested interest muddying the waters for many long years to come.
Industrial chemicals NEVER causes harm, oh no siree! Perfectly safe...ah huh
Seems more likely..
maybe its a cattle virus
Yes, but they might find it hard to argue mass hysteria. Not that that's stopped them before...
Its too bad the Olympic games will be held in Rio this August, when there are still many unanswered questions about Zika. I feel bad for the athletes that must be wondering if they are putting their health at risk simply by attending.
According to the following article, it is the Asian strain of the Zika virus, not the African strain, that may be the cause of microcephaly:
Zika virus strain 'imported from the Americas' to Africa - BBC News
The strain in Brazil is the Asian strain of Zika, and this Asian strain has now jumped into Africa, where three cases of microcephaly have appeared.
That being said, the strain in Colombia is also the Asian strain,1 so it is not clear why there are no microcephaly cases in Colombia.
in poor country the report of cases are slow. Give it time. In Dominican rep they had the first case reported of E after zica virus been there a bit.
If pesticides were the cause of the microcephaly, wouldn't there be babies born to non-infected mother's who are also microcephalic. Have there been any reports of this?
I think it's likely down to the strain causing the microcephaly.
"In the end, the most compelling point against pyriproxyfen's role in Brazil's health issues is this: Health officials in the state of Pernambuco, the so-called epicenter of microcephaly, say that in the three cities reporting the most cases — Recife, Jaboatao and Paulista — pyriproxyfen is not in use."
I've long wondered how severe the synergistic affects of disease/toxins are
not much study done on it as it's terribly complex and the few things I've read over years tends to support the idea that synergies produce WAY more dangerous outcomes than could ever be expected from what should be, by individual doses/disease be practically harmless
possibly true, but whenever I hear the possibility of industrial accident...my "conspiracy alert meter" flashes like the blue lamp on the TARDIS
It may all just be down to a new strain
but from experience, when industrial pollution accidents happen, cover ups almost ALWAYS occur
These are the most recent numbers I've seen. 854 confirmed cases of microcephaly with a lab confirmed zika association in only 97, so it looks like most have nothing to do with zika (though it's unclear if the remainder were negative or untested).
Moreover the very outbreak appears overstated as only a fraction of suspected microcephaly cases are confirmed.
Lastly, even if zika were present in most or all cases of microcephaly it would mean very little if zika is endemic in the population, much like finding evidence of EBV alone doesn't carry much weight since almost everyone has it.
Later in the article:
I am not understanding your last comment-- endemic refers to regularly found in a population -- a pathogen can be endemic and cause much disease and death eg., malaria, syphilis, bacillary dysentery, tuberculosis, different types of pneumonia and influenza etc.
I'm not sure I understand the relevance of the additional part of the article to the numbers I posted. You asked if there were non-zika microcephaly cases and the epidemiology shows that most cases are in fact non-zika (or at least not known to be zika-related). If the claim is that zika causes more severe microcephaly then one would at least expect a correlation between zika and severity, but they fail to detail one if it does exist.
As for my last point, I probably should have said widespread instead of endemic, though I assumed my EBV analogy would make that clear. The point is that if, hypothetically, zika evidence is found in nearly 100% of the local population, then finding it in most/all cases of "XYZ" (in this case microcephaly) doesn't mean much as a correlation. It's an alternative answer to your original question in that even if all microcephaly cases were zika associated it doesn't necessarily rule out another cause. I've not seen anyone address how widespread it is but given its vector, its presence since at least the 50s, and its typical asymptomatic course, I think it's very plausible that zika is widespread in the region.
Can it not be like rubella?
I saw an article about the mode of transmission being in question,as I had wondered about this before.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...cal-mystery-caregiver-gets-Zika-man-died.html
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