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New articles on how to exercise/sweat away your ME or cross my palm with silver and I will cure you

Countrygirl

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http://www.steadyhealth.com/article...-help-your-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-treatment

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome And Fear Of Exercise
Most people suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome often claim that exercising makes their symptoms worse. Many of them are worried about conducting any kind of exercise because it could aggravate the symptoms, which is understandable. In fact, there’s actual research that shows how chronic fatigue gets worse when patients try to do only as much as they need to do — a symptom known as post-exertional malaise [4].

What would be a minor exertion for most people brings severe tiredness and pain to those suffering from CFS because exercise lowers the pain threshold. People with chronic fatigue syndrome find it harder to recover their muscles after a workout and often show lower scores on cognitive tests after physical activity, compared to control groups.[5] The patients often reduce their activity levels in response to fatigue, a feature shown to be a protective mechanism in humans as well as animals [6]. They learn to adapt to the fatigue rather than persistently “picking the wound”.

In a study published in The Lancet in 2011, researchers used a method called mediation analysis to identify how abstract factors like beliefs affect fatigue. The study found that patients who were able to overcome their fears about fitness showed the greatest improvements. [7]

and this which has comments dated July 2017

http://www.mypharmacyvisit.com/exercise-chronic-fatigue/


Could Exercise be the Cure for Chronic Fatigue?
Chronic fatigue syndrome is hard to treat because it’s still unknown what actually causes the disorder. The tiredness won’t simply go away, even with rest. A Recent study published in The Lancet found that exercise may help to those suffering from chronic fatigue to feel better afterward.

The key is to gradually increase the amount of physical activity. Those who participated in the study for 12 weeks afterward felt a lot better. Scientist claim that getting used to exercise by using only small amounts of effort and increasing it gradually can do a lot for those affected by the syndrome. The participants were doing exercises at home under phone or Skype surveillance of their physical therapist, something called guided graded self-help treatment.

It’s very important to learn how to exercise without causing more damage. It’s possible by gradually getting used to the exercising, and this can be done by gradually increasing the time of the workout, from the only couple of minutes of walking at the very beginning.



And then there is this irritating web site which is spreading false information of a cure for ME and fibromyalgia

Despite what you may have come to be told or believe, Fibromyalgia is actually an emotional stress illness that manifests from suppressed and repressed emotions such as rage, anger, fear, worry, sadness, hurt etc. It is totally treatable and I have successfully treated many people through the Stress Illness Recovery Programme to full recovery. If you would like to find out more do not hesitate to contact me. You've nothing to lose except your pain. at www.louiselevy.co.uk
http://www.louiselevy.co.uk/stress_illness_13.html


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This is the site:

http://www.louiselevy.co.uk/stress_illness_13.html

I am an Advanced SIRPA TMS Practitioner / Chronic Pain and Stress Illness Specialist treating patients face to face, as well as via skype/ telephone TMS is and acronym for Tension Myoneural Syndrome, sometimes still referred to as Tension Myositis Syndrome which was the name originally coined by Dr John Sarno MD who is the founder of this syndrome.

This particular group of health therapists are amazing miracle workers apparently as they can cure a wide variety of diseases and conditions.............providing of course you cross their palms with silver.

Amongst the conditions they cure are

MigraineDifficulty
SwallowingFrequent
InfectionsDizziness / Vertigo
Food Sensitivity
Tinnitus
Arthritis
M.E / Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Obsessive Compulsive Thoughts / Behaviour (OCD)Eating Obsessions Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD)AnxietyPanic AttacksSelf Harm or Self CuttingLow Mood DepressionInsomnia
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
Tendinitis
Thigh / Hip PainKnee PainFoot / Ankle Pain (Including Plantar Fasciitis)
Complex Regional Pain Disorder (CRPD)TMJ (Temporomandibular Joint Syndrome)
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Trigeminal Neuralgia
Tension Headaches
Fibromyalgia Stomach and
BowelsAbdominal Pain
Ulcer SymptomsHiatus Hernia / Heartburn / Acid Reflux IBS / ColitisUnexplained
Pelvic PainUnexplained
Frequent Urination


Now I wonder what Trading Standards would react to the above claims?
 
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hellytheelephant

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Thanks @Countrygirl .
The blurb on Louise Lee's site is a crib from the BS I was told at my local Pain Clinic.... A heavy emphasis of 'carrying on regardless' and of course encouraging the patient to focus on positive emotions.

In order not to 'open the pain-gate' you are encouraged to do far more than your body can support...
This completely mis-understands the process of Chronic pain syndrome and even in otherwise healthy patients leads to deep exhaustion and a pain flare up- it is disasterous in ME patients.

I presume when this fails, the patient is blamed for not co-operating in the right way, or having too much resistence to change....

At least I didn't have to pay for my dose of BS!!!!!!
 
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Clinical Hypnotherapist
Cognitive Behavioural Hypno-Psychotherapist (Hypno-CBT)
Cognitive Behavioural Life Coach

TMS (Tension Myoneural Syndrome) Chronic Pain / Emotional Trauma Stress Illness Specialist (SIRPA) Adv
Mind / Body Therapist

Career Counsellor

NLP Practitioner
Thought Field Therapist


...what is a thought field therapist? £85 per session?
Virtual Gastric Band Programme £499 ?

I'd comment but words fail me.
 
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Not quite, there is a subpage about how a normal gastric band would be something that you put around your stomach so it has less room which leads to you feeling satisfied with smaller portions of food. That would make dieting easier. Now, the virtual version is that she just hypnotizes you into thinking you have something like that (to make it less invasive or sth i figure). Why it still costs half a grand is... well. You know.
 

Countrygirl

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Thanks @Countrygirl .
The blurb on Louise Lee's site is a crib from the BS I was told at my local Pain Clinic.... A heavy emphasis of 'carrying on regardless' and of course encouraging the patient to focus on positive emotions.

In order not to 'open the pain-gate' you are encouraged to do far more than your body can support...
This completely mis-understands the process of Chronic pain syndrome and even in otherwise healthy patients leads to deep exhaustion and a pain flare up- it is disasterous in ME patients.
:mad:

I am so sorry you were treated so badly, @Helly! :hug: It is disgraceful and they deserved to be sued for GBH.
 

Invisible Woman

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Honestly! I can't believe people get suckered in by this shite.

Clinical Hypnotherapist
Cognitive Behavioural Hypno-Psychotherapist (Hypno-CBT)
Cognitive Behavioural Life Coach

TMS (Tension Myoneural Syndrome) Chronic Pain / Emotional Trauma Stress Illness Specialist (SIRPA) Adv
Mind / Body Therapist

Career Counsellor

NLP Practitioner
Thought Field Therapist


...what is a thought field therapist? £85 per session?
Virtual Gastric Band Programme £499 ?

I'd comment but words fail me.

The only reason someone would have a "qualifications" list as long as this is because they still haven't found anything g they're good at. Apart from fleecing the gullible.
 

SilverbladeTE

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Hm...
tell you what, folks:

I'll wear a kilt
hold a hula-hoop around my middle
then spin the hoop around ma belly, shoogling ma hips to spin it up, performing the ancient Scottish mystical ritual known as "Twirl yer Caber"


I am quite sure that will provide enough encouragement, or fear, to motivate anyone to overcome their M.E.!
Yup, yes indeedy! :D :whistle:

...as if I could even do a hula-hoop now! I'd frikkin keel over or fly out the window!
*wee guy below looks up and shouts*
"LOOK OUT! Fat Bastard, incoming at 12 o'clock!" :p

I think my suggestion has more merit, at least from a "benefits of humour" perspective, than the CRAP all these kind of folks spin.
Any other illness, they'd *get the jail* for such flimflam.
 

Countrygirl

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For further entertainment you might like to view her facebook page. I note she seems to have erased some of her more interesting responses to the ME community who challenged her. I recall one of her remarks stated something to the effect that she was sorry her knowledge was too much of a challenge for us. Maybe someone can find it.

https://www.facebook.com/louiselevy.co.uk/

Louise Levy Clinical and Cognitive Behavioural Hypno-Psychotherapist