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NCI updates its page on XMRV

Discussion in 'Media, Interviews, Blogs, Talks, Events about XMRV' started by currer, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. currer

    currer Senior Member

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    Ooof, that's quite heavy. But Ruscetti is from the NCI too. And he will chair the XMRV symposium on the 9th. So what does this mean? As long as we don't hear from him, we can of course not know for sure. But it's important what he thinks. As long as he doesn't share this view it's certainly not a fact for me. What we can probably say now is that the "official" NCI line is what we can see on this page. So it looks at least as if this group has more influence in the NCI than Ruscetti's.
     
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    Even I am shocked by this

    I wouldn't think they would go that far to definitively say that. That's quite a statement from a huge Institute!

    They're saying not just CFS but prostate cancer as well. Wow....I'm really shocked...
     
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    I didn't know he was going to chair it...that is going to be a fascinating presentation...

    I don't know who speaks for the NCI but you're right that means he has a minority viewpoint that's for sure.
     
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    It's a cutthroat, mafia fight, seriously...

    Maybe we can get John Gotti out of prison and pay him to be our advisor :rolleyes:
     
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    I think this study explains why...they got ahold of some original samples and sequenced them and concluded that they all looked like the 22RV1 lab strain.

    So XMRV is there in the samples...but it looks like it came from a lab not from humans. They also found evidence of contamination in some of the patients they retested and when they looked again they didn't find any XMRV...Think about this...they were able to find XMRV the first time...so they can find it...but when they retested those patients taking samples that did not come from the WPI - they were unable to find it....That's strong stuff...

     
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    so singh's work is also in jeopardy then? wow

    ruscetti seemed so sure. i hope he hasnt jumped ship, too. he's the kind of guy you don't mess with lol
     
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    Ruscetti probably didn't want to retract the Science study, meaning he is still sure. The 9 june event will be fascinating indeed.
    And yes, the NCI is basically saying all the XMRV research belongs in the trashcan.
     
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    There is still the ape study that showed that the virus can't be found in blood sometimes.
    And the genetic varriation, if it was just from one of the viruses taken what's with all the others?
    What about the theory about a common infection source like vaccines? Also doesn't sound so strange if they say theyr stuff is contaminated why not somethin they use in medicine? How they now what the genetic variation rate in this virus should be since they say its very different from HIV and HTLV?
    How to explain antibodys?

    For me there still too many importand questions to drop XMRV dead.
     
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    i think not willing to retract the study and agreeing with all the results is something very different: science is all about making mistakes, and pointing them out in other studies. That is how progress is made. If all scientists were to retract their studies once mistakes are found, this would result in an erasing of history that is very 1984 Orwellian.
    As the authors did their work in good faith, and optimally made use of the knowledge that at this point was available, they should not retract their study.
     

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