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Naviaux et. al.: Metabolic features of chronic fatigue syndrome

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by A.B., Aug 29, 2016.

  1. A.B.

    A.B. Senior Member

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    The Naviaux study we have been waiting for

    Metabolic features of chronic fatigue syndrome


    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/08/24/1607571113.long
     
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  2. Ben Howell

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    Hot off the press! Nice one!

    Unbelievably significant.

    It's gonna go off!


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    Stress induced metabolic pathway alterations. Wow
     
  4. A.B.

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    This is half the answer. The other half is figuring out why this state persists for so long.

    It feels like we're really close to understanding this disease. And once you understand the problem, coming up with a treatment could be quite simple.
     
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  7. Ben Howell

    Ben Howell OMF Correspondent

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    "Area under the receiver operator characteristic curve analysis showed diagnostic accuracies of 94% [95% confidence interval (CI), 84–100%] in males using eight metabolites and 96% (95% CI, 86–100%) in females using 13 metabolites."
     
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  8. snowathlete

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    UK psychiatrist (who is commenting on CFS story, why?) says a lot more work to be done yet, well there was my second shock.
     
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    Why on earth did the daily mail interview a psychiatrist for comment? And when will we stop being besieged by the "this might show it's not all in the mind" narratives? How many times must that be shown before that stops being the go-to focus? Sigh.

    But the study does sound intriguing. My brain can't quite follow it all...so I'm hoping for analysis from all the great science minds on this forum.
     
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    Who is this randomer from Edinburgh and why is he of all the people in the world being asked to opine on a metabolomics study?
     
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    Might be worth adding Naviaux to the thread title, lots of people have been anticipating the publication of his study and the title of the paper is a little vague.
     
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    PDF version
     

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  14. deleder2k

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    What will the psychobabblers say about this study? That the proposed test isn't worth anything because we don't know if people that are depressed or that have other diseases carry the same abnormalities..?
     
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    Not like a rocket, more like a TARDIS!!!
     
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  16. Ben Howell

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    This is being addressed as part of OMF's future study i.e checking the biochemical 'signature' against other illnesses.


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  17. deleder2k

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    Like this?? [​IMG]
     
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  18. Ben Howell

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    Would like to hear your thoughts on it @alex3619.


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    Weblink to download the PDF (early version) from the website:
    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/08/24/1607571113.full.pdf

    It's best to download the PDF from the website, for two reasons:
    1. To get the latest version. (With edits and corrections etc.)
    2. So that the journal gets to count the download hits.
     
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    lipid groups with over 80% metabolic impact in the study.
     
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