@golden thats brilliant - I did look up holistic treatment for anal gland problems, she's had regular walks and a raw bone every day but not a lot of improvement. Doesn't help she's got joint problems, her shoulder went a couple of weeks ago. So has been on a/inflammatories as well I feel a little better today so will check out stuff for worming. thanks for the name of the vet -I'll keep that - its a drag that I need someone to take us every time so distance is a problem, don't think dogs and skype go very well she'll go all coy!!!