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N acetyl cysteine

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by knackers323, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    Has anyone had any experience with using NAC to raise glutathione?

    Did you notice any effects, how long did it take? Thanks

    I tried the search button but just went around in circles
     
  2. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    I take 1200-1800mg per day and it seems to help me quite a lot with sleep and avoiding the "wired" mental state. No idea regarding glutathione, but I haven't developed MCS or severe sound/light sensitivity or intolerance to most drugs/supplements, so maybe it has helped with that.
     
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  3. Marco

    Marco Grrrrrrr!

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    All I can say is that it helps me prevent crashes and also helps with heat intolerance. No way of telling if this is due to its antioxidant properties, raising glutathione or antagonising glutamate.
     
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  4. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    I don't notice anything from it at 1200 mgs/day.
     
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  5. Sushi

    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Did you try the Google Site Search option within search? You can try this for NAC as there are quite a few threads.

    Sushi
     
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  6. physicsstudent13

    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    can you inject glutathione powder from the capsules mixed with water? I tried it but it didn't seem to have any effect at 2000mg. there is a store in florida that sells it
    I've been taking NAC to protect my liver from the medications I'm on but I hope it isn't damaging my heart/lungs as studies say
     
  7. heapsreal

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    Interesting, how safe is a capsule of glutathione to inject? I assume different quality control for capsules vs injectable.

    I guess you could use it with saline for injection, but would there be a way to sterilize it to the grade of other injectables ?

    Have me thinking now?
     
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    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    I don't know I am tired of having brain fog and exhaustion for years and contacted a doctor who offers the injections but the price was beyond what I could afford. he was offering Meyer's cocktails too which I tried 3 times I think.
    there's a company in Florida that sells the injections. I bought the glutathione from piping rock and I didn't get any clarity or lifting of brain fog from the injections or taking the pills.

    so the b12 has to be a certain brand to be effective for brain fog and energy? is piping rock good?
    I have had significant energy increase on b complex and vitamin c injections but no help in the brain fog

    isn't NAC supposed to damage the heart walls and lungs by thickening of heart walls? it throws off the body's oxygen sensing
     
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  9. physicsstudent13

    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    I'm not sure if NAC is safe in mouse studies it destroyed the hearts or damaged the hearts and lungs of mice.
    NAC protects both the kidneys and liver. I'm having strange chest pains lately like a sore arrythmia feeling on the right side and I have tachycardia of 122 all the time some days

    I just want to regain my clarity and brain function which I lost after sleep apnea and asthma
     
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  10. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    The Myers cocktail didn't do much?
     
  11. physicsstudent13

    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    I'm getting strange right chest pain/soreness/arrythmias, maybe I took too much EDTA or HCG? I have right bundle branch block now but that was on an EKG before I started taking NAC. It could be low calcium from EDTA?
    I don't know if this is a result of too much NAC damaging my heart??
     
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  12. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    So why did you stop at three?
     
  13. physicsstudent13

    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    isn't NAC dangerous and damages the heart and lungs? on a mouse study it did
     
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  14. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    No, it's quite safe at normal doses, unless you're predisposed to cysteine-based kidney stones. It's been used long-term on HIV or AIDS patients without ill effects at doses of 1800mg per day and even a bit higher.
     
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  15. physicsstudent13

    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    No but in mouse studies it caused heart and lung damage and thickens the heart wall which makes the heart function poorly which is damage. I would guess in AIDS patients it is a last option.

    I had tachycardia of 125 with taking all these supplements and high doses of NAC and EDTA and ubiquinol. I'm not sure what caused it
     
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  16. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    And what dose were these mice supposedly taking? Do you have a link to the study which supports your claims? From what I recall, the dose has to be at least 10x higher than a typical dose for any at all damage to occur. And the long-term studies in HIV patients showed no ill effects, so it's quite unlikely it was a "last resort".
     
  17. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6?

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    As for many other supplements, Examine.com have summarised research on NAC.
     
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