Hunting down the cause of ME/CFS & other challenging disorders - Lipkin in London
In a talk to patients in London on 3rd September, Dr. W. Ian Lipkin described the extraordinary lengths he and his team are prepared to go to in order to track down the source of an illness, with examples ranging from autism to the strange case of Kawasaki disease.
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My experience with ARVs

Discussion in 'XMRV Testing, Treatment and Transmission' started by randalbond, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. redo

    redo Senior Member

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    It's actually the outbreaks which have got me thinking it's got to be endogenous. You have cluster outbreaks such as in Mella & Fluge's city, after people got a giardia infection, you have outbreaks after EBV and sometimes several people get it after the a harsh flu virus.

    When we know that it can break out given such triggers, we also know the virus must often lie latent, and burst out when the immune system is temporarily supressed somehow (triggers).

    What do you mean with your latter paragraph? I haven't heard of any such research.
     
  2. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    hi redo. many years ago...in the 80s maybe...dr. suhadolnik of temple university told me that he could show the disease spreading if he dropped some blood from diseased patient into healthy blood.
     
  3. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    I would expect that turned out not to be true. If it were, it would have have led on to some good published research.
     
  4. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    it is true. he did it in front of peterson. i even spoke to the director of VIP labs about it, who worked with suhadolnik at temple.
     
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  5. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    Surely if there was some sort of reliable test like that in the 80s it would be known and well researched by now. I'd be surprised if we had not heard of it.
     
  6. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    its not a test. he just dropped some blood in a petrie dish of healthy blood and watched what was wrong with the original blood, spread to the healthy blood.
     
  7. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    But if there was an observable difference between 'healthy blood' and 'CFS blood', surely this could be used as a test?
     
  8. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    yea i dont even know if he knew what he was seeing..?
     
  9. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    Ah well. Ta.
     

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