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"Mindfulness therapy for somatization disorder and functional somatic syndromes" (Fjorback et al)

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by Dolphin, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    Full text is available for free here: http://funktionellelidelser.dk/file...atization_disorder_and_functional_somatic.pdf

     
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  2. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    The two groups:
     
  3. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    Most had CFS:
    71% in the mindfulness group
    and
    77% in the Enhanced treatment as usual group
     
  4. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    The results were not that impressive. The smallest change was for SF-36 physical functioning:
    Mindfulness:
    Baseline (mean (SD)): 60.14 (20.9)
    15 month: 63.1 (22.6)

    Enhanced treatment as usual
    Baseline (mean (SD)): 57.1 (22.2)
    15 month: 66.8 (19.4)

    They make all sorts of excuses

    These were a group of people aged 20-50. If one had a physical illness, one was generally excluded from taking part. So there was a lot of scope to score more than 63.1 (most people of working age score 90-100).

    They make an error with regard to the PACE Trial:
    That was the initial position of the trial, but for most of the trial it was >65.

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    Another excuse:
     
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  5. Dolphin

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    More spinning:
    I'm not sure it's true at all that the SF-36 is not very sensitive to change particularly if one has fairly low scores starting off.
     
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  6. Dolphin

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    They don't really discuss the negative result much in terms of it possibly being accurate or valid:
    e.g.
    and
     
  7. Oredogg

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    Mindfulness meditation is certainly feasible, but I think they are wrong to imply it is a treatment. It can be extremely useful in terms of helping the suffering patient recognize and better cope with the reality of their illness, but it in itself is not a treatment.
     
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  8. Cheshire

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    In terms of poor justifications, it reminds me of the introduction for health professionals at King's college London

    http://www.kcl.ac.uk/innovation/groups/projects/cfs/health/index.aspx

    Yes it doesn't function because we are too good.... :bang-head:


    And by the way, how do you quote someone from the forum?
     
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  9. N.A.Wright

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    Just click the Reply tag in the bottom right hand corner of the post. If you want to get clever and include multiple quotes fom different posters you'll need to copy and past the quote codes from an open window - looks like this : [quote ="Cheshire, post: 452813, member: 12860" -[/quote]
     
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