1. Patients launch $1.27 million crowdfunding campaign for ME/CFS gut microbiome study.
    Check out the website, Facebook and Twitter. Join in donate and spread the word!
Ergonomics and ME/CFS: Have You Hurt Yourself Without Knowing It?
Having a chronic illness like ME/CFS can make it hard to avoid problems that come from bad ergonomics. Jody Smith has learned some lessons the hard way ...
Discuss the article on the Forums.

Mild CFS: liquid foods/empty stomach

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by scaryindrag, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Has anyone ever tried "strategizing" in some way with liquid foods or keeping an empty stomach?

    My condition is mild; I can have years of remission. I can have a few hours of daytime with near-normalcy when my stomach is empty or emptying out. Liquid foods also slightly-lessen the drag on my energy.

    I'm hoping someone else might have tried some strategies around this, or at least have similar conditions to mine.

    Thanks (I'm new to the board.)
  2. lnester7

    lnester7 Seven

    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes:
    1,097
    USA
    I am going through that now. To be honest for me it comes and goes. So now I feel much better on empty stomach or very low food intake or liquids.

    I love to use the nutribullet and I mix fruit and veggies so I don't feel guilty by lack of nutrients.
    2) I love like soup for one meal, salad, and shakes of Veg+fruit in between. I do a solid meal a day and try to be fish.
    3) Electrolytes all day.
    I do not do this for long, but is my go to when I crash. (I discover since then that I have food allergies).
    scaryindrag likes this.
  3. PennyIA

    PennyIA Senior Member

    Messages:
    263
    Likes:
    352
    Iowa
    I'm trying to "eat" every two hours... but every other meal is liquid - mostly my nutrition shake for my second breakfast and a fruit and/or veggie juice/smoothie for my second lunch. Idea being that I want to eat the smaller meals and focus my meals as much as possible on getting nutrient packed while eliminating some of the things that I tend to be intollerant of. Plus I found that going gluten free tended to increase my food cravings so bad which was already outrageous because I used to ALWAYS be hungry, but then spend half my time in the bathroom. Eating more often has helped with that, but eating solids wasn't helping with other things - so it's been my compromise.
    scaryindrag likes this.
  4. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,442
    Likes:
    1,940
    London
    I've tried liquid diets and fasting. For me an empty stomach doesn't help. however, a blocked, bloated stomach makes me feel worse.

    Have you tried digestive enymes or Betaine HCL to try and move food faster through your stomach?
  5. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Thanks. ANY food in between meals makes me woozy, so I'm trying to limit myself to 3 meals. I wish I could go fewer or smaller, but I'm pretty thin (and getting thinner). I'll see if using my hand-blender help, like your Nutribullet does.

    My solid meal is always the last one, and boy do I enjoy it. As long as I don't over-eat, it doesn't give me any problems.
  6. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Thanks, Penny. I wish I could eat that often. Spreading meals out seems to just prolong the fatigue.
  7. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Thanks, ukx, I haven't tried these. I'll check to see how much they are, since I'm on a limited income.

    I can't be sure if it will move things any faster (right now it takes 90-120 minutes), but I'll look into it.l
  8. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    I am going to try napping IMMEDIATELY after eating to see if this speeds things. I think it might have helped after lunch today.

    Has anyone else tried this?
  9. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

    Messages:
    2,520
    Likes:
    1,868
    Midwest, USA
    Note that every other "meal" Penny has is a drink - a nutrition shake or a smoothie.
  10. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Anything heavier than water is a problem for me.
    Little Bluestem likes this.
  11. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    In case anyone is interested, lying down as soon as I get the head-achy feeling after a meal has been helping.
    (Not just sitting down or reclining somewhat, but truly lying down.)

    It seems to lessen the feeling and I think is cutting down on the recovery time from the meal.
    Valentijn likes this.
  12. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,442
    Likes:
    1,940
    London
    That's good to hear. Maybe it is blood flow to the stomach area that is needed and the lying down helps?

    Do you have POTS or anything like that?
    ahimsa and scaryindrag like this.
  13. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Not that I know of. Just a mild, stress-induced CFS (that's been persistent lately).

    Which I think is lifting! Food is not making my stomach struggle today.
  14. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Maybe so. I'll write this down on my 3x5 card on how to cope.
  15. kangaSue

    kangaSue

    Messages:
    30
    Likes:
    31
    Australia
    The digestion process requires a doubling of blood flow to the bowel shortly after eating. This can cause issues if you are already lacking in blood volume or have low blood pressure.
    ahimsa and scaryindrag like this.
  16. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Thank you. This sounds helpful.
  17. taniaaust1

    taniaaust1 Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,938
    Likes:
    4,912
    Sth Australia
    Ive read that it isnt good to eat dinner before one sleeps as ones digestive processes apparently slow down then.

    ................

    That sounds like POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome), eatting is a POTS trigger as more blood has to go to the digestive system (POTS patients often have low blood volume so eatting draws the blood away from other places eg the brain). Laying down relieves POTS. Headache is a common POTS symptom.

    Anyway, low blood volume could explain the food-headache-laying thing.
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2014
  18. scaryindrag

    scaryindrag

    Messages:
    13
    Likes:
    3
    Thanks.

    Gawd this is complicated.
  19. Dr.Patient

    Dr.Patient There is no kinship like the one we share!

    Messages:
    241
    Likes:
    194
    USA
    Very low energy days or crash days are when I used to do liquid diets. Far less load on the digestive system. Then I even divided them into clear liquid diets, and thick liquid diets.
  20. EtherSpin

    EtherSpin

    Messages:
    55
    Likes:
    36
    Melbourne , Australia
    I reckon a combo of some fasting (perhaps intermittent, start eating late , like 11am, finish early like 4pm) combined with a high proportion of nutrient dense liquid foods (green smoothies with protein powder & fibre?) would be good but maintaining at least a snack of solid crunchy food somewhere so our body keeps up the ability to deal with solids!!

See more popular forum discussions.

Share This Page