Invest in ME Conference 12: First Class in Every Way
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Medscape article: Addressing Fear of Exercise Cuts Chronic Fatigue?Perhaps

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Nielk, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. Nielk

    Nielk

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    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838452

    Continue HERE
     
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  2. Iquitos

    Iquitos Senior Member

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    They start with the unfounded, unproven and untrue pseudo-"fact" that we have a fear of exercise so everything that follows from that fallacy is also untrue.
     
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    Antares in NYC Senior Member

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    They are relentless, aren't they?
     
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  4. lnester7

    lnester7 Seven

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    Why can't I comment?????
     
  5. barbc56

    barbc56 Senior Member

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    If CBT made it easier to exercise, I would grab it! If I were only depressed, I would not hesitate to treat it to feel better nor have a problem with saying I am depressed.

    But the reality is IT DOESN'T AND IT ISN'T.

    The world is much more complicated that the advocates of GET and CBT are claiming.

    Simplistic thinking like this will not help us.

    :bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head::bang-head:

    Barb
     
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  6. mango

    mango Senior Member

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    did you guys read the whole article, both pages?

    i thought the quotes from Andreas M. Kogelnik, Leonard Jason and Kenneth J. Friedman were brilliant!
     
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    Mij Senior Member

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    I've developed a "fear" of reading news articles coming out of the UK regarding ME.
     
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  8. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    Yeah. I'm developing avoidance issues. I may need a new, medical journalism-focused CBT. God knows, the funding's there if they want it.
     
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    Gingergrrl Senior Member

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    @mango I can't get into the article and was wondering what Dr. Kogelnik said?
     
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    @Gingergrrl
    Andreas M. Kogelnik, MD, PhD, founder and director of the Open Medicine Institute, told Medscape Medical News, "While physical deconditioning is a factor in ME/CFS patients, time and again we've seen clear evidence in practical community settings that CBT and GET can be extremely detrimental to a patient's well-being and treatment course. The PACE trial did little to address the heterogeneity of the ME/CFS population, nor did it account well for severity of illness and fragility of many of these patients. CBT and GET need to be used very cautiously."
     
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  11. barbc56

    barbc56 Senior Member

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    While my comments still stand about cbc/get, I did not read the article as I couldn't access it.

    How can we access the whole article. I at least want to give it a fair chance.

    Barb

    ETA It won't let me sign up for an account. It says email registered but haven't received an email for user name or password.
     
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  12. mango

    mango Senior Member

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    @barbc56 i sent you a convo...
     
  13. barbc56

    barbc56 Senior Member

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    Got it! :hug:
     
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