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ME after alcohol, antibiotics and kefir! What's in common?

Discussion in 'The Gut: De Meirleir & Maes; H2S; Leaky Gut' started by Ekaterina, Nov 14, 2015.

  1. Ekaterina

    Ekaterina

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    Hi, guys!
    I have ME for 5 years, but till June 2015 I had ME symptoms periodically. Now due to my problems with duodenum I have it all the time. I just wanna share some thoughts with you. Well, before I could develop ME symptoms after consuming certain stuff: antibiotics (doxycycline, amoxicillin), kefir, alcohol (even after nonalcoholic beer). I'm just wondering: what's in common? I ate a lot of bad food, drank soda, but never had ME symptoms after that. And after these 3 things - all the time! What kind of bacteria can multiply after consuming these products? Any ideas? Thanks)
     
  2. sillysocks84

    sillysocks84 Senior Member

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    The question you should be asking is what good bacteria have been killed off. @Ema @caledonia know more than I do in this area.
     
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  3. caledonia

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    The antibiotics would kill off all stomach bacteria including the good ones, and let the bad ones, like candida, proliferate.

    Alcohol dampens methylation. The alcohol may also feed the bad bacteria.

    Interestingly, kefir has a tiny bit of alcohol in it. So if the nonalcoholic beer, which also has a tiny bit of alcohol in it, is enough to bother you, it seems like that might be the case with kefir too.

    You would need to do some stool testing to see exactly what bacteria you have, but candida would be a prime suspect.
     
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  4. LisaGoddard

    LisaGoddard Senior Member

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    I'm interested in this thread as my friend has suggested I try kefir. I too feel ill after nonalcoholic beer, and I'm wary about trying kefir. I think both kefir and nonalcoholic beer have yeast in them. Could this be the problem?
     
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    sillysocks84 Senior Member

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    I know if you have a candida problem yeast is not your friend.
     
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  6. Ekaterina

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    I also felt ill after kvass. It's a fermented drink made from yeast bread. So, I think yeast can be a problem. Or mb alcohol in their composition.
     

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