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Maudsley CFS CBT price list, claims treatment 'can' result in return to work

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by Esther12, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    Don't think he's associated with any CFS services at the moment? Here's a profile page: http://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/team/PIs/michael-sharpe
     
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    Tom Kindlon Senior Member

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    This refers to my second comment also which I just posted now which other people wouldn't have seen unless they went to the site:
    http://www.plosone.org/annotation/listThread.action?root=78707
     
  3. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    How did they calculate costs of CBT/GET in the cost-effectiveness paper?

    It looks like they just stated them:

    If they just get to say that their treatments cost whatever they want, then it's not hard to claim that they are cost effective.
     
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  4. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

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    Just looking at another piece of Maudsley CFS promotional literature:

    https://www.national.slam.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Chronic-Fatigue-Service-booklet.pdf

    They provide some figures and graphs, none of which include data for a control group (well there's one that compares CBT and a psycho-educational intervention, but there was no real difference between them).

    Mainly it's anecdotes (most seemed to be from teens, even though the unit is for 14-adult):

    From one of their successful cases:

     

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  5. Bob

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    I don't know where they get the 65% figure from. It's not an accurate PACE trial result even if the effects of SMC are included. I think they may have got even more confused than usual. For 'full recovery' I think they are referring to the type of recovery that can mean deterioration.
     
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