Discussion in 'GcMAF' started by mojoey, Aug 2, 2011.
You are right, its a mistake, SFC is CFS is in my language.Sorry
Better than a nit. I have a PDF of Rugiero's first presented paper after his U.S. trial with mostly CFS or SFC patients. To whom shall I email it if people are interested.
Yes please, I should like to see it, whichever way you spell it
I think everyone who visits this thread would like to see it.
I agree, I think everyne wold like to see it posted here.
A member kindly uploaded it here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38793300/GFMAF IJAE 2011.pdf
Thank you, Sushi
what do you think about these results considering it is just 8 weeks compared to injectable gcmaf on CFS disease?
do you think there will be any chance KDM will consider it?
I hope they can sell this product to everybody that needs it, soon.
Perhaps is the most important new in all the time Im CFS/ME patient, about treatments.
I have contacted with Dr Ruggiero, but, by the moment, he dont answer questions about the product
Two months ago he said that in setember they could sell the product, the probiotic, to the italians and european patients.
But it was before this work with Cheney.
This product sounds fascinating. But I have a slight dread about Cheney's involvement with it. He likes to make big profits on selling his info to CFS patients. I hope there will be someone else who makes this yogurt and the directions for producing it readily available and REASONABLY PRICED for all who need it.
the only way is by pushing KDM on some trial on this....i believe there has been pressure to block maf in italy
I wonder who is the owner of the probiotic formula, Ruggiero, who has researched in an Italian public University, or Cheney who is a doctor only for a rich patients and sells the home made method to make it for a 5000 dollars.to his patients and sells also the product to make it for six months.If he sells only the method, but can be made with usual foods or probiotic strains sold in dietary shops,it will be easy to make, but the strains are secrets, for now.But the important thing are to know which are this probiotic strains, and who sells it.
It can be a big bussines now the MAF 314 and its possible someone is struggling to have de magic formula.
A lot of cancer,HIV, and ME are waiting....and surely its good for another cronic deseases.
I hope the commercial/patented issues are quickly resolved and also the distribution,because the MAF 314 has only one week life.
http://www.marcoruggiero.org/pdf/3- Poster ICAR 2011 GcMAF [Punzi Morucci].jpg
Mono Mac 6 cells a tool to test Gc Maf-lik activity.
..............Preparation obtained in our lab putatively containing Gc Maf,
This preparation was obtained treating fresh colostrum with kefir grains for 24 hours....
it is a little less than the cost of genuine gcmaf which is 600euro for 8 injections (2 months), if genuine gcmaf is added to the strains there s no way to lower the price
my only concern is not the price which is quite low as a drug but have it and working, the price is even lower than antiviral drugs and much lower than interferons in my case.
in cfs it is half the price of nexavir.......
the price is really the last concern because i feel it wont be available in europe whatever the price you pay unless a researcher like KDM gets involved.
nobody is going to sell it if there is politic pressure against it
I dont know why do you think is GcMaf added, Ruggiero said that GC MAF is created "naturally" in colostrum , fresh colostrum, with kefir grains for 24 hours.Perhaps at a certain temperature.
The most difficult is to obtain FRESH colostrum.Colostrum power is easy to find.And also the kefir grains, usually a lot of people give it for free.
Practically a free medecine, but its almost unbelievable. Cant be true !
Medecine and pharma always is related to big bussines.
By the way, Nexavir, that is not cheap, is made from pig livers
Rita, I am uncertain about the meaning of that paragraph, exciting as it is, regarding colostrum and kefir grains. Sounds like an excellent thing to add to the diet, for many reasons, but I read before from Dr R that it is named MAF 314 because it took 314 tries to find the right combination of strains to achieve the GcMAF effect.
I will ask KDM in November about this.
Of course, there is something they don t tell there.Perhaps the temperature, I think.
I remember I read something like 37 C...but I dont know where, perhaps in the african study with probiotics for HIV.
I dont know if kefir grains have different strains to choose.Or is the exact concentration of grains , his weight, in relation to the colostrum that they tested so many times.
This paragragh are words of Ruggiero et al. not mine...
Im agree that if this works, they dont tell us for free the exact formula.
The Cheney patients have paid a 5000 dollars for it.
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