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lyme without joint, muscle pain and neurological symptoms

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by knackers323, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    With the news from Lyme researcher Prof. Peter Irwin yesterday about Lyme in Australia I was thinking does anyone know anyone, heard of or know if its possible to have borrelia/Lyme but not have muscle/joint pain or neurological symptoms?

    With fatigue/pem being the predominate symptom.
     
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    duncan Senior Member

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    Lyme reportedly has been linked to cardiomyopathy. Fatigue comes hand-in-hand with that.

    I would distinguish between fatigue and PEM, as most here would. There are many that would say if you have true PEM, then you've ME/CFS.

    It certainly is possible to have both a TBD and ME/CFS.
     
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    I don't have a lot of joint or muscle pain and my doctor thinks I have Lyme. I have always thought that lack of joint swelling, pain rules out Lyme, but maybe not. (Traditional Lyme docs require joint pain as a symptom)

    I do have a tremendous number of neuro problems, but most of them developed later, and all were diagnosed very late. (Like 20 years after symptomatic)

    My main symptom is fatigue and I do have PEM.
     

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