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Lyme in UK: chronic arthropod-borne neuropathy

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Aileen, May 14, 2014.

  1. Aileen

    Aileen Senior Member

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    I hate having yet another name to remember but I think what they are proposing is a really good idea.
     
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  2. Valentijn

    Valentijn The Diabolic Logic

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    I'm not so sure ... they seem to be saying there's one group with clear positive blood results for Lyme who recovered after a short bout of antibiotics, and a 2nd group of nutters who think they're sick.

    It looks like a proposal to lump them in with "medically unexplained" diagnoses.
     
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    They should have a clinical case series for CAN, and then they would find the seropostive patients. Its sounds like they are making an assumption or three here.

    I do think however that we need to be investigating what I would call post-Lyme disease, just as we have post-Q fever, post-SARS and post-polio, and the generic post viral fatigue syndrome. In these states the acute infection is typically resolved, but that does not tell us anything about residual pathogens or altered immune states. Blood tests are not reliable for many pathogens anyway, typical blood tests are geared to find acute infection. Further if these patients are immune compromised then the risk of new infection, or the recurrence of old infection, could be expected to be higher.

    I agree this does sound like a proposal for a new category of MUPS.
     
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    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Also, being seronegative means you are seronegative for the strains they tested for--and they generally only test for a few strains whereas there are "legion."

    So aside from the problems we might have producing antibodies to an "old infection," there is the question of what strains they tested for.

    I have myself as an example: I tested negative by serology for Bartonella. The test only included a few of the 30 some strains. Later I tested positive by PCR (DNA) for Bartonella.

    Sushi
     
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