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Lyme and Its Connection to Thyroid / Adrenal Problems

Discussion in 'Lyme Disease and Co-Infections' started by Wayne, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Yes, the burbur is helpful with the herxing caused by the Cat's Claw.

    Ema
  2. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    I found this information on burbur:
    I noticed that it is said to "cleanse the lymphatics" and cleavers, which is also recommended for herxing, is for cleansing the lymphatics. I was reading that the Lyme bacteria can reside in the lymphs so if you're cleansing the lymphs doesn't that mean you're releasing them into other parts of your body? I don't know for sure if this is what happened, but after getting chiropractic adjustments my Lyme rash appeared (happened twice 2-3 years apart) and I also experienced a relapse. Since the Lyme Bb also hang out in the spinal fluid I'm wondering if I disturbed them in which case I'm concerned the same thing could happen with lymphs. I would like to minimize the herx so if I'm worried about nothing then I will try these (cleavers and burbur).
  3. Ema

    Ema Senior Member

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    Lyme bacteria do hang out in the lymph but I don't think that treating the lymph is releasing them elsewhere into the body. I think they are more than capable of going wherever they want to go on their own.

    Stagnant lymph is an issue for many reasons. I wouldn't let that situation persist for fear of disturbing Lyme personally. But walking is also good for moving lymph as is rebounding on a mini tramp (I bought one with a frame to hang onto when OI was a big problem). Reiki can also help with lymphatic movement.

    http://lymedisease.org/news/lyme_disease_views/lymphnodes.html

    I do think it is important to support your immune system as well so that as Lyme is mobilized it can be effectively killed. Are the herbs *enough* to do that or are traditional antibiotics also required? Well, that is the million dollar question unfortunately.

    Broken cell wall chlorella, vitamin C and Epsom salts can all help with the herxing as well.

    Ema
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    Interesting that you mention chlorella because in a recent Q&A Buhner recommended chlorella for herxing. He also said that he's less confident about sarsaparilla now for herx support and it sounds like he's planning to remove that from the protocol. He said with sarsaparilla it's hit and miss. It's important to mention with chlorella that possibly 30% of the population has a chlorella intolerance so a person should start out with half a capsule and gradually increase to make sure they don't have that issue. Spirulina might be a good substitute unless a person doesn't want too much iron. With vitamin C, dbkita said it's one of the best ways to recycle glutathione. I wonder if that's part of why it helps.
  5. August59

    August59 Daughters High School Graduation

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    Just as a second opinion I would have that TSH done again. I know a person that doesn't even have a thyroid anymore and will completely forget to get their prescription filled and 6 to 8 weeks later still only has TSH in the 30's, but then again that is a pituitary produced hormone. A pituitary gland having to produce that much TSH would make me think it would have to be giving up something to produce that much. I think I would still have it repeated just for peace of mind since a gland as high in hierarchy of glands go is making approximately 50 times more TSH than it should be making.

    Have you ever had a MRI of the pituitary gland to rule out any type of tumor? I would also be very curious as to what Free T4 and Free T3 labs would actually show with a TSH that high.

    Good luck and definitely keep us informed!
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    Wayne Senior Member

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    UPDATE:

    Please see THIS POST where I make reference to this thread.

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