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LTT test for Borrelia (Infectolab)--sensitivity 89.4%

Discussion in 'Lyme Disease and Co-Infections' started by Sushi, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. Sushi

    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Open Neurol J. 2012; 6: 104–112.
    Published online Oct 5, 2012. doi: 10.2174/1874205X01206010104
    PMCID: PMC3474945
     
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  2. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Is this only for early infections? Does it work for late bloomers too.
     
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    Thinktank Senior Member

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    @Cheesus, I think it's especially helpful to determine a chronic infection with borrelia burgdorferi because it looks at actual cellular activity - antigen.
     
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    Hi,
    taking this test was the best thing I ever did. I'm sick since 2003, and have suspected lyme since the very biginning. Over time, I had several elisa's, western blot's, immuno blot's, and pcr's. All of them returned negative. December 2012 I had the first ltt test in Augsburg germany, and guess what: positive!

    Athe same lab I was also positive for EBV, coxsacky virus, q-fever, ehrlichia, yersinia, chlamydia pneumonia, chlamydia trachomatis, and had inconclusive results for bartonella and babesia. I started the treatment there on 18 feb 2013. After this treatment(jan 2014) my testresults for lyme and co where negative, except the q-fever. Also my results for bart and bab returned pos, so I'm still working on those three with rifampicine 1x450mg/day, azithromycine 600 mg 3 times/week, doxycycline 2x200mg/day, and malarone 250mg/day. Also noteworthy is the fact that 8 people with CFS have had theirselves tested in Augsburg, and all of them returned positive titers for borellia, and several co's.

    We met a lady there that was in a wheelchair, and had the diagnosis MS, and was also found pos for lyme with the ltt test. After the initial 2 weeks of treatment at the BCA, she was able to come to the clinic on foot. She no longer needed the wheelchair. The ltt is also a very good tool to check the treatment progress, and gives correct results, even while taking antibiotics.

    Also good to know is that this same test was approved by the cdc for the diagnosis of TBC. It is called an IGRA-test (interferon gamma release assay), but it is an ltt or elispot test. Same test, diffrent name. The cdc wouldn't want all CFS patients to get one of these, or all their lies would be exposed. If you can get one of these, do it. It was 250 euro's well spent.
    Take care.
     
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  5. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    So I'm thinking about maybe doing this and I've been having a look into it. I see LTT is recommended alongside a number of other tests in the case of chronic Lyme such as CD57. The Infectolab website is sparse at best, and I wanted to see costs/how you go about ordering the tests, but there is virtually no information. I saw something on Regeneruslabs but still I can't really see cost or how the average joe would go about doing this. If I were to want to do it, I'd have to ask my NHS GP to take the blood.

    Any insight?
     
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    For those really interested in getting their health back, write an e-mail to service at infectolab dot de . They will explain the ins and outs to you. They are very friendly, and always prepared to help, although their english is a bit onconventional. Good luck, and keep us posted...
     
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    @ikke2001be, yes they reply quite promptly and that's a very good thing.

    I think it's better if you remove their email address from your post though because forums like these get crawled by bots that collect email addresses to send spam to. People can contact infectolab through their website,
     
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    Kina Moderation Team Lead

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    I have changed the email to replace '@' with 'at' and '.' with 'dot'. The bots won't pick it up now.
     
  9. roxie60

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    I am considering this lab. They have been very responsive via email and answering questions.

    I am starting abx for mycoplasma and anaplasma so I also wonder if I can take this ltt test while on abx. All elusa and ufenex negative for lyme Bb but wb had lyme specific bands show up just too weak for a positive Bb. I was hoping it would be worth the mkney and effort to get the ltt to test fof a number of infections I have not yet tested or have come up negative. Also told insurance will not reimburse but the igenix will be a third party so one can request the Germany ltt tests and igenux will forwsrd blood to Germany but igenex will bill us, at a higher rate but at least some maybe covered by ins. Unfortunately it also requires dr order whereas one xan directly work with Germany lab if dont go through ifenex.
     
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    It sounds like it does work best during treatment, compared to other Lyme tests. Basically antibodies will remain positive for a while even when the infection is gone, but the LTT doesn't have that problem. So it's useful for monitoring progress, which I would think means that it will give positive results if infected with Lyme, even during treatment, unless it's already been pretty much cured.
     
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    I haven't seen this posted on PR yet(?), though it's a few months old. If someone has access to the article ("letter") it might be helpful:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24520912/

     
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  12. maryb

    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    Does anyone know does blood have to be newly drawn for the LTT ? Just wondering as if my result from blood at Igenex is still IND then could it be sent on to Infectolab? This would save me a lot of time, effort and money.
     
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    The best would be to send an e-mail to Infectolabs and ask. They have always sent me replys shortly afterwards.
     
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    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    @Helen
    thanks I will do that,still waiting for my Igenex result, over 4 weeks now, should be ready by the end of the week:(
     
  15. Thinktank

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    Thanks for posting the abstract. Does anyone here have access to the full study?

     
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    I believe it's not so much a study but rather a "letter," i.e., a commentary, on the 2012 study that @Sushi cited in his original post. The "Abstract" I posted is actually the first several lines of the letter.

    It would definitely be nice to read the full article/letter, since the title is suggesting these researchers (Dessau RB, et al.) have not found the LTT to be useful for diagnosing Lyme.
     
  17. Sushi

    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Yes, has to be newly drawn and get to the lab pronto.

    Sushi
     
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  18. maryb

    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    :(:grumpy::depressed:
     
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  19. Thinktank

    Thinktank Senior Member

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    I see, well i'm very interested in seeing the data they (Dessau et al) gathered.
     
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    I'll request it.
     
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