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Llewellyn King interviews Dr. Kenny De Meirleir: ME/CFS Alert, Episode 42

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Ember, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. serg1942

    serg1942 Senior Member

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    Hi guys, does he say "itercellular????" I understand "intracelullar", but of course English is not my fist language. The thing is that the normal word to use would be "extracelullar" instead of "intercelullar", as opposed to "intracellular"...

    Could you please confirm me this? I translated the video into Spanish, and would like to make the correction if needed.

    Thanks!
    Sergio
     
  2. Sushi

    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    I hear "intercellular." He says it (whichever!) at about 4:58 minutes into the interview.

    Others?

    Sushi
     
  3. Valentijn

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    I hear "intracellular". I think he'd enunciate it if there was an "e" between the "t" and the "r" to say "ter", but he doesn't, so it sounds like "tra".
     
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    He always speaks about 'intracellular' infections or in Dutch 'Intracellulaire'. Never heard him talk about 'intercellulair' infections.
     
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    Well, the thing is that his statement is actually very important: "they're all (intracelullar) infections..." Why would he say that? We know some infections he treats are both intra and extracellular... Maybe the intracellular forms are the ones related with the autoimmune process?

    Well, I hope we'll know more about this all soon!

    Thanks!
    Sergio
     
  6. Ember

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    Is the translation of Seminar 7, then, inaccurate?
     
  7. Spring

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    Also there he is saying 'intracellulaire'.

    I will ask De Meirleir in the next chat or on the Dutch ME day event on 12th May if he always means intracellular or if he also talks about intercellular infections.

    I guess he emphasizes 'intracellular' because that makes clear you need antibiotics that pass the cell walls to treat them. But I will ask if this is true.

    If you have more questions, feel free to ask. I will ty to have them answered by De Meirleir.
     
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  8. Sushi

    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Spring, the English caption in Video 7 (at 3:40 minutes) says "intercellular?"

    Sushi
     
  9. serg1942

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    Well, this definitely needs to be asked to him!!!! Maybe it sounds like that b/c of his accent??? I could not distinguish such a nuance!!!! ..Anyway, I'd like to know why he emphasizes either intra or inter --whatever it is!. I think your guess, Spring, is a good one... We'll see...

    Sergio
     
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    Don't be fooled by outside features exclusively.....the Vikings really, really, really got around. They even did a stint in Italy... If you can get your hands on "Great Courses" "The Vikings" - it is amazing how much territory they covered.... just sayin' ;)
     
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    I mentioned this earlier in another reply: The Vikings really did get around...a lot...Italy too. And, that's just from what we know....("The Great Courses" series: "The Vikings" lecture. Long, and detailed, but worth every minute if you're curious about their history. ;) )
     
  12. Nico

    Nico Senior Member

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    You never know....the Vikings did go inland down rivers... I don't remember the exact details -- read "The Swedish Vikings" section.... you never know....
    http://www.vikingdenmark.com/viking-history.html
     
  13. Daffodil

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    I think Canada is pretty high up there
     
  14. Legolas

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    I'd go for intracellular. Because;
    -it's more logical; it's harder for the immune system to get them, making them chronic more easily
    -lately he's really getting into Bartonella, which is intracellular
    -if it was 'just' intercellular, i don't think he would emphasize it that much

    Anyway, i see him the 14th of Mai. If my memory doesn't let me down i'll ask him.

    edit; just watched video 7, he says intracellular infections. I've bad ears, but this is very clear to me, this is my motherlanguage;)
     
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  15. Daffodil

    Daffodil Senior Member

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    hi legolas. will this be your first time seeing dr. d?
    xo
     
  16. Spring

    Spring Senior Member

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    The caption is wrong. Unfortunately it can't be changed. It will be mentioned below the video.
     
  17. Legolas

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    No, I've allready been diagnosed with Bartonella by dr.DML and I'm on rifampicin and lymecyclin currently.
     
  18. Spring

    Spring Senior Member

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    "Hi guys, does he say "itercellular????" I understand "intracelullar", but of course English is not my fist language. The thing is that the normal word to use would be "extracelullar" instead of "intercelullar", as opposed to "intracellular"..."

    serg1942: I talked to DML last Sunday at our ME benefit meeting in the Netherlands and I asked him specifically if he ever talks about intercellular infections or always inTRAcellular. His answer was 'always INTRAcellular'. So that is solved!

    DML gave a presentation I hope to summarize soon in English.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Thanks for clarifying that Spring.

    On video # 7, the English subtitle says intercellular. Would that be difficult to change?

    Sushi
     
  20. Spring

    Spring Senior Member

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    Sushi: Unfortunately once a video is on Youtube you can't change it. It is mentioned below the video.
     

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