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Llewellyn King interviews Dr. Kenny De Meirleir: ME/CFS Alert, Episode 42

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Ember, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. MeSci

    MeSci ME/CFS since 1995; activity level 6

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    I had plenty of exposure to infectious organisms as a child. I think the hygiene hypothesis is more plausible as an explanation of primary allergic illnesses, such as nut allergy and asthma that occur in early life, rather than illnesses like ME which may or may not have infection as part of their causation, and which may or may not feature allergic-type reactions.

    A Rajput, eh - I used to know one, and he was rather a wild man!
     
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    Sing Senior Member

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    More Viking fun--Today in the doctor's office I opened their issue of National Geographic, from November 2012, and found an article on where the Vikings went and what they did. It said:

    "Viking seafarers were the explorers par excellence of medieval Europe...Some voyaged west to what is now Scotland, England, and Ireland in the eighth century, bringing death by the sword in raids immortalized in medieval manuscripts. Many turned to foreign commerce. As early as the ninth century Viking merchants nudged eastward along the shores of the White and Black Seas and navigated the shoals of Eastern European rivers. They founded cities on major Eurasian trade routes and bartered for the finest wares from the Old World--glassware from the Rhine Valley, silver from the Middle East, shells from the Red Sea, silk from China." Then it goes on to describe their New World trading and settlements in Iceland, Greenland, Newfoundland and Baffin Island.
     
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    yea they really kind of suck other than if you wanna fight/argue
     
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    A link between Vikings and hemochromatosis? I carry one of the hemochromatosis genes, and have a brother with two.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    So do you think their "bad karma" can be passed down through genes? If so, we have a cause for ME! :confused:

    Sushi
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Dreambirdie

    I was quoting a Sanskrit scholar who was comparing Swedish and Sanskrit, so I don't have any more documentation than that. He was just very struck by the close similarities.

    Sushi
     
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    I'm also a carrier of one hemochromatosis gene.
     
  8. Sing

    Sing Senior Member

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    Maybe Alex you ought to rethink that avatar for the Viking look.
     
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    Einstein with a horned helmet?
     
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    Wow! that map is funny... I am the typical spanier, brown-dark hair, black eyes, etc.. However my skin is whiter than usual over here, and I have genes from the only two parts of Spain showed in the map as "invaded by Vikings!". FWIW!!!

    Anyway, KDM says that there's a higher proportion of patients from the north Europe, not everyone...

    S.
     
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    I do as well, time for a poll?
     
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    Perfect!
     
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    Hi Daffodil,

    Rajput warrior ancestry, huh? So does that mean you're Rajasthani? Or maybe Gujarati?

    I don't have any Indian ancestry (unless you count Native American as "Indian" - LOL) but my husband is Maharashtran. He'd probably joke that the Maratha warriors (e.g., Shivaji) were just as fierce. ;)

    Sorry for the thread hijacking but I don't run into very many Indians in online forums.

    Back to the original topic, thank you to Ember for posting the link to that interview.
     
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    hi ahisma. i think i might be rajasthani cuz i am not gujarati and i know my parents are punjabi but speak hindi instead.

    i did some googling and it appears the shivaji were descended from rajputs too..?

    incidentally, gypsies are descended from rajputs, too!
     
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    clive powney Senior Member

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    Is there any way of corroborating this on this site? I have seen loads of posts from KDM patients and not particularly aware of any major success stories???
     
  17. Xandoff

    Xandoff Michael

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    My Uncle had a Roman nose, it was roamin all over his face.
     
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    In Seminar 7 (at 3:38), Dr. De Meirleir mentions that “chlamydial infections, mycoplasma and quite a lot of other intercellular infections are chronically present.”
     
  19. Daffodil

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    sadly, i have a nose shaped like a beak. but i refuse to get rhinoplasty.
     
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    Mitochondrial DNA can be traced back to the first females of homo sapiens, and it has shown for the first time a much more accurate map of migrations and so forth. I gather a person can have their mitochondrial DNA analysed and find out all their real ancestry through the female line. People have had some real surprises! Mitochondrial DNA lasts far longer than ordinary DNA. What am I getting to? Maybe a researcher would focus on analysing this type of DNA to look for common ancestry or markers in those with ME/CFS, instead of just looking at the regular DNA.
     
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