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lithium experiences

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by leaves, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    What if you bought a supplement that contained a lot of ingredients, but was didn't have dhea or pregnenolone in the title. It's unlikely that they'd check the bottle for all the ingredients (?) I'm not sure I'd be willing to take the risk though:devil::angel:
    Like these two:
    http://www.iherb.com/Life-Time-Brain-Support-Formula-60-Capsules/16806
    http://www.iherb.com/Life-Enhancement-CerebroPlex-180-Capsules/2723
  2. adreno

    adreno 3% neanderthal

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  3. Crux

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    Hi;
    After reading posts here, Thank you all, I've decided to retry lithium orotate. I had tried it in the past for thyroid support, but didn't really give it the time and attention.

    Also after reading Skyline's post that lithium may help with B12/folate transport, I'm in. I see that Lotus posted that orotic acid, ( orotate) may aid in transport.

    I wonder if the folks who have found lithium to be paradoxically stimulating, experience this because of its ability to help transport B12/folate ?

    Here's a report about the effects of lithium and its deficiency on rats, goats, and humans:

    http://www.jacn.org/content/21/1/14.full#xref-ref-38-1

    Further along in the article, is the mention of transport, and the index cites a book, " Lithium in Biology and Medicine", where this phenomenon is discussed. I wasn't able to fully access the book info., but it looks legitimate to me.
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  4. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    lol they have pregnenolone not DHEA:nerd:
  5. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I take quite a lot of other things.
  6. Charles555nc

    Charles555nc Senior Member

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    LDN (low dose naltrexone) and 5-10mg Lithium (I use vitamin research products brand) are great for fighting depression and are anti viral.
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  7. taniaaust1

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    Update on my previous post.. turned out my theory of the Lithium Orotate likely to help me due to having none showing up for me in a hair test at all is wrong (wondering if this has to go throu any conversion process in the body?? maybe I dont covert it or something???). I havent had another hair analyses done to know if taking it daily for over a year has got my levels in the normal range or at least to even show up on a test but plan to do that before I quit taking it. Maybe the standard supplement dose isnt enough for me?

    Ive noticed it helping NOTHING at all (so this is another supplement failure trial for me). I had high hopes that maybe due to the lithium deficiency I have, that it would at least help something or at least some mood stuff eg Premenstral Dysphoric Disorder etc. The one Ive been trialing is the Doctors Best Brand at thier standard dose (5mg Lithium from 120mg of Lithium orotate).
  8. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I did not think the lithium orotate was helping me. I skip a lot of my supplements for a day from time to time. After the 2nd or 3rd time I skipped the Lithium, I realized that every time I did I felt more 'on edge'. Sometimes modest gradual improvements are difficult to recognize.
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    ive stopped and started it countless times while taking care to observe changes and also stayed on it for many many months at a time. It certainly hasnt helped me at all, im 100% sure of that at this point....not even a gradual change over a long time period. Ive played around with it for over a year just to make sure it wasnt doing anything.
  10. Lala

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    How about trying a different dose. I started with one daily but had to increase to 4 tabs daily to see real difference. After some time on 4 tabs daily 2 tabs are enough for me now.
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  11. taniaaust1

    taniaaust1 Senior Member

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    Yeah that's the next thing on my to do list with it. I plan to get another hair analyses first to see if the standard dose Ive been taking has brought my levels up to normal range or not. (if it has.. I'll go no further with experiementation of this but if it hasnt.. I'll increase the dose).
  12. Michael

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    I take 2-4 lithium orotates DAILY and it did NOT show up on my hair test, even after months of using it. I DO feel better from taking it.
  13. Lotus97

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    In supplements, there's 5 mg elemental lithium per tablet, but that's out of a total of 125 mg of lithium.
    http://www.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-Best-Lithium-Orotate-200-Tablets/22628
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 tablet
    Servings Per Container: 200 servings
    Amount per serving % Daily Value
    Lithium (from 125 mg lithium orotate) 5 mg


    Prescription lithium carbonate has higher percentage of elemental lithium. 300 mg of lithium carbonate has around 56.4 mg elemental lithium while 300 mg of lithium orotate would have 12 mg elemental lithium. But which value is significant in terms of toxicity? Elemental or total?
  14. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    In supplements, there's 5 mg elemental lithium per tablet, but that's out of a total of 125 mg of lithium orotate. The other 120 mg must be the rest of the orotate molecules. Elemental lithium is what is significant in terms of toxicity, although chemical form may play a role in toxicity as well. I do not know if that is the case for the various forms of lithium.
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  15. Lotus97

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    Lithium is supposed to help B12 transport. Are you taking any B12? I'm not sure if that's just for certain SNPs though.
  16. heapsreal

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    Bumping this thread to see how everyone is going on lithium orotate.
  17. Lala

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    After long time on lithium orotate I now take also minocycline and I am suspicious, that lithium somehow interacts with this drug. I got incredibly dizzy and anxious, the anxiety is related to dizziness. So I decided to stop LO. I did it abruptly and oh, I got severe depression. So went immediately back on LO. The problem is minocycline controls my abdominal pain, so it is hard to stop too. So I feel trapped now and do not know what to do. Feel kinda like dependent on LO.

    Is there someone who stopped lithium o. after long time? I did not have problem to decrease LO from 20 to 10mg previously and I did it abruptly as well.
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  18. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    My lithium was off-the-chart high on my last hair mineral test. I cut my dose by 1/4. I have had a stressful summer and recently returned to the full dose. Lithium is in a group of minerals that they are not sure of the healthy level for.
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    How much LO do you take?
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    Lala Senior Member

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    I am interested in more information about LO. Does anybody know how long does it take to completely eliminate LO from the body? I found that halflife of LO is cca 20 hours, but it took me 9 days since decreasing dose to being hit with depression again. So perhaps the longer we use it the longer it stays in the body. I also found a study, where it took 1,8 day and 2,4 day to eliminate LO for longterm users (years) in dependence on how long they used it previously. Unfortunately I can not find the study again.

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