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Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Katie, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. starcycle

    starcycle Guest

    I feel like I've taken every supplement known to humans at one point or another. These days I've narrowed it all down to a few essentials:

    Ester-C - 1000mg x3
    Co-Q 10 - 100mg x2
    Gamma E - 400IU
    Vit. D3 - 2400IU x2
    Magnesium - 400mg + whatever I get from Epsom salt foot baths
    Probiotics - mostly acidophilus & bifidus
    Zinc carnosine - helps heal stomach lining from gastritis caused by a course of methylprednisolone I had to take once
    Capillaris Combination - traditional chinese herb formula to help with liver/gall
    experimenting with Cordyceps - immunomodulator, anti-fatigue, not sure if I'm reacting allergically yet or not
    melatonin - 3-9mg.

    I don't tolerate most B vitamins, or I would definitely take those. B5 cranks up my immune system, and B-12 makes me feel a little wired and drains my adrenals. B2 doesn't seem to do anything, but I don't want to take just that or B6 alone and create B imbalances. I'm also folate deficient, but taking folate makes me really depressed for some reason, before it wears off. I think it has to do with methylation pathways.
     
  2. Alesh

    Alesh Senior Member

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    :D

    Against fatigue: Troparil

    The sleep and against pain: Carfentanyl

    Detoxification and leaky gut: Cholera toxin

    Depression: Amfonelic acid

    Natural antiviral: Polonium 210

    Against stupid doctors: Phosgene
     
  3. Dr. Yes

    Dr. Yes Shame on You

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    Thanks for the information, Alesh. I haven't heard of these, but I will ask my doctor to prescribe them.
     
  4. Carter Burke

    Carter Burke Guest

    These are what's helping me (originally Dr Myhill's protocol, which I've added a few extras on to... I think it's an orchestrated, long-term effort... After 2 years on these I've made huge improvements - especially recently.)

    First thing: (sports supplements)

    L-Glutamine 5g
    Branch Chain Amino Acids 5g
    Vitamin C 1g

    (and rice cakes for carbohydrates - helps deliver amino acids to muscles)

    Morning: (based on Myhill's protocol)

    D-Ribose 1x teaspoon
    Acetyl-L-Carnitine 1g
    VegEPA (Omega 3 and 6) 2x tablets
    Niacinamide 500mg
    CoQ10 100mg
    BioCare Adult Multivitamin (quality vitamin supplement with full B complex)
    Vitamin D3 1000ug
    Folapro 1/4 tablet
    Folinic Acid 100mg
    Hydroxo-B12 1mg (taken nasally)
    Maca root powder 1g (recent addition - pleasantly energising; balances hormones. Maybe better taken later into regime as high in L-Arginine. Could worsen EBV?)

    Mid-day pick-me up:

    D-Ribose 1x teaspoon
    Malic Acid 1g
    L-Glutamine 5g
    Vitamin C 1g

    Throughout the day

    Myhill's Magic Minerals mixed with water (very useful full spectrum mineral powder)

    Evening

    L-Glutamine 5g
    Branch Chain Amino Acids 5g
    Acetyl-L-Carnitine 1g
    Vitamin C 1g
    VegEPA (omega 3) 2x tablets

    Bedtime drink

    D-Ribose 1x teaspoon
    Myhill's Minerals 1x level teaspoon



    I think each one plays an important part in the big picture. There's nothing I'd consider cutting at the moment, although I'm cutting down on the Folapro as I'm not sure whether I still need it. (I started out 6 months on a higher dose of CoQ10 btw. I'd tested with low levels, so was recommended 300-400mg/day to get levels up, then a 100mg/day maintenance dose. I think I cut own to 200mg and eventually to 100mg over a slightly longer period though. Remember not to use up any extra energy! Helps to go to bed each night not feeling too tired - that's when the body gets into healing: when it's not over-stressed.)


    (Plus I'm on a low lectin, wheat, dairy and sugar-free diet. Everyone should check for Lectin problems: tomatoes, beans, peas, etc. Think they're way too overlooked. Expect some symptoms to get worse when you discover a food intolerance - it's probably the immune system kicking in. Supplements are just one piece of the puzzle for me. Another part is keeping my Control Pause above 35 seconds with the Buteyko Technique, which I do for a few minutes each morning and night. Yeah, expensive and pretty committed! But getting tangible and very consistent results now.)
     
  5. cfs since 1998

    cfs since 1998 *****

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    I started taking that too. I do not have any side effects from it at all.
     
  6. Katie

    Katie Guest



    Lmao. I saw your other thread Alesh, I too don't believe you can be cured by supplements but they can help in some areas such as a boost to certain areas such as immunity.

    Hope that troparil works out for you :D
     
  7. Dr. Yes

    Dr. Yes Shame on You

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    Troparil

    Yeah, but I can get him something just as good cheaper!

    I accept all major forms of insurance. :cool:
     
  8. Katie

    Katie Guest

    After reading the dosages of Coenzyme Q10 ranging around the 100-150mg mark I decided to check how much I was taking. My super expenses Wassen brand was 10mg, my Boots wn brand was 30mg a time. So, I'm upping my dosage to 60mg twice a day with food and see how I go. I've stopped my other sups to see how it goes over Christmas.

    This has been a really enlightening thread, thanks everyone, Katie
     
  9. starcycle

    starcycle Guest

    I sometimes didn't notice anything even at 100mg. and had to bump it to 200mg to get a perceived benefit. When I first took it, I even stopped taking it altogether, thinking it wasn't doing anything. But then a few weeks later I noticed I definitely felt worse and added it again to noticeable benefit.

    But take it slow by all means. Just know that if you are underdosing you might not see any results, or else they might be very subtle at lower dose.

    In the US I now use Jarrow brand co-q 10 - very good quality and price. Also, some people do better with ubiquinol instead of co-q 10, so that's something to consider, too. :)
     
  10. Katie

    Katie Guest


    Thanks for the heads up, I'll consider ramping it up in a month or two. I've looked up ubiquinol, my ignorance abounds, and I'll consider that too. I've been doing a new sleep routine for a week and a half now and I'm already feeling better, at least 5% difference and the absence of a lot of symptoms until late in the day. I'm not sleeping past midday either, though it's early days and a lot of overdoing it over Christmas is to come.

    Just taken my second 60mg dose. Happy days. :)
     
  11. Carter Burke

    Carter Burke Guest

    Crazy isn't it. I picked up some 10mg Q10 early on. Expensive and virtually useless... My specialist finds Q10 deficiencies can need as much as 400mg/day for at least a few months. 100mg's considered a maintenance dose.
     
  12. Katie

    Katie Guest

    I was reading other threads which mentioned people feeling 'speedy' on higher doses which I guess is deficiency dependent. I have no idea how low I am but as I think I'm feeling benefit (though I'm sleeping better, even when I'm waking lots, the sleep in between is better) who knows, the Q10 might be helping my sleep too. I'm rambling now, I'll see how this goes. 120mg for now but with the option of going up in units of 30mg.


    No one buy Wassen!! Rip off merchants!
     
  13. klutzo

    klutzo Senior Member

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    Supplements

    I have recently cut my supplements drastically due to what the economy has done to our income, but I think I still may be taking the most supps. of anyone on this list or darn close to it.


    L-tryptophan - 3 grams every night
    Candida Yeast Management - X 1 month after cortisone shots for insect stings, taken after a 2 wk. course of liquid Diflucan
    L-glutamine - 9 grams daily
    Creatine - 5 grams 3 X week before exercising
    Dibencozide B12 - 1/2 lozenge every other day
    Methyl B12 - 1/2 lozenge every other day
    Folate - 800 mcg. every other day
    Cranberry extract - as needed for bladder pain X 3 days
    Curcumin - 500 mgs. every other day
    Magnesium Citrate - 170 mgs. 3 X daily
    Pregnenolone - 5 mgs. 3 X weekly
    Benfotiamine - 150 mgs. daily
    Probiotics - 1-2 caps daily
    Potassium chelate - 99 mgs. daily
    Ubiquinol - 50 IUs 2 X weekly
    B-Right B Complex - 1 daily
    Epicor - 500 mgs. every other day
    Neptune Krill Oil - 900 mgs. daily
    Vitamin D3 - 8,000 IU daily

    Note: For those who are unfamiliar with them, Epicor is an immune modulator proven to increase NK cells. Benfotiamine is a lipidized form of vit. B1 that puts uveitis (a serious eye infection from Lyme Disease) into complete remission as long as you keep taking it.

    klutzo
     
  14. markmc20001

    markmc20001 Guest

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  15. REl List your supplements

    Morn
    Adrenal Boost - 1 capsule
    AMP Energy Plus w/NADH - 1 tablet
    Anti-Viral - 2 capsules
    Anti-Yeast - 2 capsules
    Clonazepam 1 mg - 1 tablet
    Cortisol SR 10 mg - 1 capsule
    Daily Energy B Complex - 1 UltraCap
    EnergyPLUS - 1 scoop
    Maitake D Fraction - 4 capsules
    Omega 3 - 2 softgels
    Pregnenolone 100 mg - 2 capsules
    ProBoost - 1 packet
    Propranolol 10 mg - 2 tablets
    Ribose Plus - 1 scoop
    Super Probiotics - 1 capsule
    T3 SR 75 mcg - 1 capsule
    Tranquility - 1 capsule
    Valcyte 450 mg - 1 tablet

    Noon

    Adrenal Boost - 1 capsule
    AMP Energy Plus w/NADH - 1 tablet
    Clonazepam 1 mg - 1 tablet
    Cortisol SR 5 mg - 1 capsule
    Magnesium SR - 1 tablet
    Maitake D Fraction - 4 capsules
    Omega 3 - 2 softgels
    Propranolol 10 mg - 2 tablets
    Ribose Plus - 1 scoop
    Tranquility - 1 capsule

    Eve
    AMP Energy Plus w/NADH - 1 tablet
    Anti-Viral - 2 capsules
    Clonazepam 1 mg - 1 tablet
    Daily Energy Enfusion - 1 scoop
    Magnesium SR - 1 tablet
    Omega 3 - 2 softgels
    Propranolol 10 mg - 2 tablets
    Ribose Plus - 1 scoop
    Tranquility - 1 capsule
    Valcyte 450 mg - 1 tablet
    Vitamin D-3 2,000 IU - 1 softgel

    Bed

    Clonazepam 1 mg - 1/2 tablet
    Doxepin HCL 10 mg/ml - 5 mg
    Lunesta 3 mg - 1 tablet OR Zaleplon 10 mg - 2 capsules OR Zolpidem 10mg - 1/2 tablet
    Rest and Restore- 1 capsule
    Sertraline HC 100 mg - 1 tablet
    Trazodone 50 mg - 1/2 tablet
    Unisom 25 mg - 1 tablet
    Xyrem - 4.5 gm 3x/night

    Other
    Fluconazole 200 mg - 2 tablets every Sunday
    Glutathione 100mg/ml - 1.6 ml IM 2/week
    Human Immune Globulin - 2 cc IM 1/week
    Hydroxocobalamin 1,000 mcg/ml - 1.4 ml IM 2x/week
    Lidocaine 1% - 0.25 ml IM 2x/week
    Magnesium Sulfate 500mg/ml - 1 cc IM 2x/week
    NADH - 10 mg/cc - 1 cc IM 2x/week
    Taurine 50mg/ml - 1 cc IM 2x/week
     
  16. coxy

    coxy Senior Member

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    i've a it confused about the coq10 doses everyone trying. The box of coq10 i have from boots the chemist is called MAX STRENGTH CO Q10 200 mg per tablet. I've been taking 1 per day as it says on the box 200mg is the recommended daily dose. Is this to high an amount?

    i take

    MORNING
    Co - E1 ENADA (quick acting) 10mg 30mins before breakfast
    Vegepa omega 3 & 6 (patented formula),( % goes to ME research) 3 x 500mg
    L- Carnitine 1x 588mg tablet
    Vit c 1 x 1000mg
    Vitamin B complex x 1 tablet
    Max strength CO Q 10 1 x 200mg tablet
    D-ribose x 1 TEASPOON


    EVENING WITH DINNER

    vegepa x 3
    vit c x 1000mg
    st johns wort (a pick me up at the moment)
    L-carnitine x 588mg
     
  17. xlynx

    xlynx Senior Member

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    Hi Coxy.

    My doctor has advised me to take 200 mg of Co Q10. his view is that it is very important as an antioxidant in CFS. I've definitely noticed that when I don't take it I can notice it. Dr Myhill and a few others also suggest it from 100-200 mg. The only person who seems to be against it at the moment that I am aware off is Doctor Cheney.

    I was originally on 400 mg for two months as I had very low levels according to my doctor.

    One caution in case it's applicable I have a reaction to sunflower seeds, and Co Q10 usually comes in a sunflower oil base. there are also other bases available such as olive oil to get around the problem.
     
  18. coxy

    coxy Senior Member

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    thankyou, i'll keep up with what i'm doing then. Although since taking the supplements (i started only a couple of months ago[) i didn't really notice any improvement, when i stopped after approx 6 weeks (mainly due to money issues and whether they were working or not)i felt terrible and quickly went back on them. I'm talking abouty when i stopped the co q10, l-carnitine & d-ribose. i have been on all the others for 2 years, the enada made a big difference to me when i first started taking it. My main problems are cognitive issues and joint problems that come and go. I'm having to go it alone as my doctor doesn't believe/follow Dr sarah myhills regime.QUOTE=xlynx;38380]Hi Coxy.

    My doctor has advised me to take 200 mg of Co Q10. his view is that it is very important as an antioxidant in CFS. I've definitely noticed that when I don't take it I can notice it. Dr Myhill and a few others also suggest it from 100-200 mg. The only person who seems to be against it at the moment that I am aware off is Doctor Cheney.

    I was originally on 400 mg for two months as I had very low levels according to my doctor.

    One caution in case it's applicable I have a reaction to sunflower seeds, and Co Q10 usually comes in a sunflower oil base. there are also other bases available such as olive oil to get around the problem.[/QUOTE]
     
  19. Frank

    Frank Senior Member

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    Europe
    Nutriphyt mucoperm
    Country life betain hydrochloride
    Jarrow methyl-b12
    Jarrow B-right
    Seagate olive leaf extract
    Lovitran cod liver oil
    New chapter probiotic immunity
     
  20. SaraM

    SaraM Senior Member

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    Co enzymed B complex
    Yarrow Methyl B12
    Acetyl carnitine( for brain fog)
    Solgar Folate
    Glutathione Suppositories
    EDTA Suppositories
    Essential Amino Acids
    L Glutamine
    Calcium D Glucarate(very effectvie for excess estrogen)
    Carlson Cod Liver Oil
    Lecithin
    Vitamin C
    Vitamin D
    Multivitamin
    Zinc
    Magnesium
     

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