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LED red intranasal light therapy

Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Lou, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Lou

    Lou Senior Member

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    Anyone heard of or know much about this therapy? Dr. Robert Rowen has reported some fairly amazing success by the Chinese using this simple mechanism.

    You simply shine this red light (in the 635 nm wavelength) up your nose and reportedly it easily penetrates the thin bones at the back of the nasal cavity getting the energy into the brain where it has some powerful healing effects.

    Pertinent to us it activates the enzyme cytochrome oxidase, helps to 'turn on' the mitochondria. Also, it has positive effects on redox, cognitive function, insomnia, and headaches.

    I've ordered the gadget (about 7 days until delivery) and will report my experience.
     
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    Ema Senior Member

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    I'm skeptical but I hope you have great results to report!
     
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    My sister-in-law has been using one for a couple of weeks and it has significantly improved her insomnia.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    I actually have one of these but the safety precautions say never to aim it at a person or animal. Any thoughts on this?

    From Dr. Rowen:

     
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    Lou Senior Member

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    Sushi, You must have the laser version, the one I have coming is LED red light (non laser), harmless at whatever or whoever you point it.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    I do have the laser version, but Rowen seems to be talking about lasers:


    Sushi
     
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    Lou Senior Member

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    Nope, on page 4 of the article we're discussing, second from last paragraph, he talks about the Vielight they're selling:

    ......... "Better for us, since, as it is a LED and not laser, there are no FDA concerns."

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    Thanks! Wish it weren't so expensive though. :(

    Sushi
     
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    Lou Senior Member

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    You're welcome. BTW, forgot to ask the obvious, what about your laser light? Have you been using it, and have you had positive results?
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    I use it in a different way--to potentiate remedies with Klinghardt's signal enhancers--not on the body itself. :)

    Sushi
     
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    Lou Senior Member

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    Thanks for this article. However, unless you read the entire article (some who scan will never get to the good part relative to this thread as; 'yikes', age-related-macular degeneration ((AMD)), oxidative insult, radical oxygen species, and vessel leakage mentioned in first two-thirds of paper may send some running for the hills) it could easily be missed that LED red light intranasal therapy is actually quite promising as a restorative, regenerative treatment for diseases of the eye, not to mention all the other possible benefits talked about here previously.

    So, if I could just quote one of the pertinent paragraphs:

    "Concerning the quality of light, short wavelength (blue) light is believed to be a major pathogenic factor in AMD. In contrast to this, infrared (IR) light was found to possess a regenerative potential in many situations of tissue repair."

    Thanks again for this enlightening article. It could be I'm wrong and everyone thoroughly reads links provided, in which case I apologize for this entire post.
     
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    The light was received two days ago, ahead of schedule. I've used it for last two nights and so far what I have to report concerns insomnia.

    Slept more deeply and for the entire night both nights. Can't say I woke up noticeably more refreshed, but my days were better and hopefully there'll be a cumulative effect. The real test will be when I'm facing a more important event on the following day and get stressed out that I won't sleep well --that's almost always a self-fulfilling prediction/disaster.

    I'm encouraged and think it understandable that such benefits as mitochondrial, redox, and cognitive function improvement will take time to see how things play out.
     
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    Lou,
    Sorry I did not quote the article, I had no time. But you did it nicely!
    Here is another one, which I find touches the Nitric Oxide problems we face :

    Therapeutic Photobiomodulation: Nitric Oxide and a Novel Function of Mitochondrial Cytochrome C Oxidase

    Robert O. Poyton & Kerri A. Ball
    http://www.discoverymedicine.com/Ro...nction-of-mitochondrial-cytochrome-c-oxidase/
    From the abstract : "Three recent findings provide important new insight. First, nitric oxide has been implicated. Second, cytochrome c oxidase, an enzyme known to reduce oxygen to water at the end of the mitochondrial respiratory chain, has been shown to have a new enzymatic activity -- the reduction of nitrite to nitric oxide. This nitrite reductase activity is elevated under hypoxic conditions but also occurs under normoxia. And third, low intensity light enhances nitric oxide synthesis by cytochrome c oxidase without altering its ability to reduce oxygen. From these findings, we propose that cytochrome c oxidase functions in photobiomodulation by producing nitric oxide, a signaling molecule which can then function in both intra- and extracellular signaling pathways. We also propose that the effectiveness of photobiomodulation is under the control of tissue oxygen and nitrite levels."

    Apart from this, could you share when and for how long you used your red light? Maybe just before going to sleep for 25 mns, or did you do it differently?

    I am not skeptical at all. In fact this fits with most of what I have found out up to now.
    Lots of good wishes
    Asklipia
     
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    I used it just as you related, for 25 minutes just before bed (while in bed). It has a 25 minute timer that automatically shuts light off.
     
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    I ordered one on Saturday and it arrived today Monday.
    I tried it on immediately (I sleep quite well these days so did not wait for bedtime.
    I do feel an effect on blood viscosity (slight tingling over the hands, a sign of blood reaching a bit farther than usually at rest).
    Also a slight improvement in vision while it was on (did not last though... but a good sign!).
    How are you doing?
    Be well!
    Asklipia
     
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    I wonder how difficult it would be to make one of these devices ourselves. I remember reading instructions to make a laser helmet for a fraction of the cost of commercial devices.
     
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    Nothing really to report yet, other than so far a good sleep aid. Please keep us informed with any progress you may make.
     
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    could someone point me to where the lights are for sale? thx.
     
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    Sushi Moderator and Senior Member Albuquerque

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    $299!

    Sushi
     

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