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Kombucha & Water Kefir - too "vinegary" for me, any suggestions?

Discussion in 'Gastrointestinal and Urinary' started by Bansaw, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. Bansaw

    Bansaw Senior Member

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    I tried raw milk kefir too. I don' think my body appreciates dairy either.

    When I try water kefir and kombucha , I do seem to get a reaction to the vinegar (or sugar content).
    I think its the vinegar since I do ferment kefir/kombucha until the sugar has pretty much converted (I have Ph strips to measure where I am). I don't know if my methylation snps are defining how I react to vinegars?

    I know I get sugar reactions with other stuff like ice cream/cookies etc. And I get cafeine reactions too.

    I am toying with the idea of simply eating the water kefir grains.

    Any comments?
     
  2. Richard7

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    If it is too acidic just dilute it. When it is too acidic for me I usually have it mixed with cold green tea.

    But I am not sure if this is the issue you are talking about. How do the kombucha and water kefir (tibicos) effect you.
     
  3. Bansaw

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    Kombucha and Kefir, about 10 mins after I consume them, give me a feeling of lightheadedness and my energy level drops a little. Its a little like a sugar reaction for me. Although excessive sugar reaction is somewhat stronger.
     
  4. Richard7

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    Ok, that is not a reaction that I have had.

    My understanding that the sugar that is left in the kombucha is mostly fructose and that that is absorbed more slowly than glucose, so 10 minutes sounds a bit fast. It could be the organic acids I guess or perhaps the alcohol.

    I don't know, but hope someone has an idea.

    Do you get light headed with the caffeine too?
     
  5. Bansaw

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    Caffeine is a bit different. It gives me a 10 minute buzz and then I crash into brain fog and a heavier fatigue 20 mins after I take caffeine. I think this has to do with my methylation issues.
    The kefir and kombucha have a negliable amount of alcohol in them since its not an anearobic (2nd fermentation). Kombucha/WK is vinegar until you 2nd ferment it by putting an airtight lid on it for a few days.
     
  6. Richard7

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    I just do it aerobic all the way. I don't feel the need to make it fizz.

    I just did a bit of a search and there are other people mentioning this symptom ( http://kombuchatea.tribe.net/thread/0d8bae37-5bb7-45f8-b2c5-a54cf7784b3d ) for example. Though this is one with a long second stage ferment.

    Another ferment you may wish to try is beet kvass. Its really easy http://www.nourishingtreasures.com/index.php/2013/01/29/beet-kvass-photo-tutorial/

    It is a very different ferment, so may have very different effects, but should also provide some of the probiotic bacteria you are presumably looking for.
     
  7. Bansaw

    Bansaw Senior Member

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    Thanks! I'm looking into that. It looks simple to make.
     

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