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Did they, according to the CCC or ICC?Unless you rationalize it by saying they never had CFS/ME to begin with.
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Did they, according to the CCC or ICC?Unless you rationalize it by saying they never had CFS/ME to begin with.
None of them did?Did they, according to the CCC or ICC?
My point is, it is is not "rationalizing" to ask for evidence that the patient actually had the illness in question before you accept that s/he was cured of that illness.None of them did?
Now, I'm curious how any other theory can explain how people can get substantial symptom relief to the point where they feel cured using these techniques?
I'm saying none of them are cured. I'm trying to explain why they THINK they are cured and why they get relief - according to my theory. If you haven't read the theory that I proposed, then this will be hard to follow."...they feel cured..."
Please cite the objective evidence for significant numbers of people being cured by these methods.
So, why do some people experience relief and even claim to be cured by CBT, or the Lightening Process, or Gupta?
I'm saying none of them are cured. I'm trying to explain why they THINK they are cured and why they get relief - according to my theory. If you haven't read the theory that I proposed, then this will be hard to follow.
I don't think you will manage to convince anyone here. If you believe you are right you should cure yourself first and then come back and tell your story. If your story is credible you might inspire some people. If you cannot cure yourself your theory might be flawed.
I'm saying none of them are cured. I'm trying to explain why they THINK they are cured and why they get relief - according to my theory. If you haven't read the theory that I proposed, then this will be hard to follow.
I didn't try to make myself "feel" anything in response to the words. If I had, it would have been what I thought I would be expected to feel. But in reality, I didn't feel any emotional response to any those terms in the context of ME. Why should I? They're just symptoms.
I think the problem with these on-going discussions you keep trying to have on multiple threads is that you are not making your point. Many people are clearly not understanding your theory (or so you say), so the problem lies not with the listeners, but with the presenter.I'm saying none of them are cured. I'm trying to explain why they THINK they are cured and why they get relief - according to my theory. If you haven't read the theory that I proposed, then this will be hard to follow.
Anyway, I made my point so no need for another back and forth that goes nowhere.
I can diagnose myself with IBS because I have stomach pain, eat potato chips, feel better the next day and claim eating potato chips cures IBS.
Were they barbequed ? Only the barbequed potato chips can cure IBS. And depression. tc .. x
I just want to say I do not believe negative thoughts or thoughts of any kind are the cause. I am not a follower of Freud or his theories. It is a continuous stress SIGNAL that I believe is at the root of the problem. Okay, I'll leave it alone now.
So, why do some people experience relief and even claim to be cured by CBT, or the Lightening Process, or Gupta? If you read what I wrote about repression, the repression point, and energy allocation then you will understand. If you are just across the repression point and barely symptomatic, these techniques will allow the symptoms to be shoved below by de-stressing.
Stress requires energy so preventing stress frees up energy that can be used to repress symptoms. This is why so many people who experience relief using these techniques will almost always have their symptoms come back later.
For those of us that are worse, our symptoms can not be repressed no matter how much de-stressing or positive thinking we do.
Now, I'm curious how any other theory can explain how people can get substantial symptom relief to the point where they feel cured using these techniques? Unless you rationalize it by saying they never had CFS/ME to begin with.