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KDM: scig for inflammation

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by ivorin, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. ivorin

    ivorin Senior Member

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    Kdm gave me scig for inflammation (late stage cfs, inflammatory syndrome with high prostaglandines low cytokines). Anyone heard anything about the use of it for that?
     
  2. TenuousGrip

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    Yep.

    Stanford (Jose Montoya's clinic) told me earlier this year -- and then repeated it at my recent in-person appointment -- that the vast majority of their patients who have a trial of SC/IVIG see significant improvement.

    They say it should be a high (anti-inflammatory) dose. Sounds like KDM knows this.

    I hope you get relief, too !
     
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  3. ivorin

    ivorin Senior Member

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    That's great news, I am just starting at 165mg/ml, 6ml per week, is that similar to what Montoya is giving?

    I'll probably update as I go to let people know, I'm pretty sure it's still fresh stuff as I haven't seen any threads on it as such.
     
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    TenuousGrip Senior Member

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    I don't know. Montoya's clinic doesn't actually prescribe it. Rather, they advise some of their patients to work with primary care, immunology, neurology, or other specialists to see if they will prescribe it.

    I think there's a fairly set protocol for an 'anti-inflammatory' dose.

    IVIG has been trialed with ME/CFS for years. I just think the results have been very mixed (like almost every known treatment) so it doesn't get much visibility.

    It's also very expensive and in relatively short supply.
     
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  5. ivorin

    ivorin Senior Member

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    I do know it for IVIG, but there isn't much information on SCIG which I'll be taking. Well, I guess I'm KDM's guinea pig :/
     
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    Joh Inactivist

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    There's a Norwegian ME docu "perversely dark" (you can search PR for it) that features two very severe patients who get SCIG if I remember correctly. One gets in complete remission (if related or not), the other one has no change at all.
     
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    I think the delivery method (subcutaneous vs. intravenous) is the only substantive difference. SCIG is typically given about weekly while IVIG is typically given every 3-4 weeks.

    I'll be very interested to hear how it works for you.
     
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    I'll keep you posted, sounds like I have to take a few for the team :)
     
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    That's great info, thank you! It seems the girl that achieved remission was prescribed the same dose I am. Guess KDM has watched the dox :)
     
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    keep us posted !!!
     
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    justy Donate Advocate Demonstrate

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    I took it for 18 months and it helped me to be able to be housebound rather than bedbound. KDM only gives very low doses. It also helped me, low dose to stop catching things all the time and gave my body a rest from constant colds, infections etc.

    Sadly I had to stop due to MCAS reactions to it and now have a fridge full.
     
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    ivorin Senior Member

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    No mcas reactions at first though? It seems to be pretty safe in his 6ml dose.
     
  13. justy

    justy Donate Advocate Demonstrate

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    No, my MCAS wasn't diagnosed pr noticeable when I started the scig.

    At first I had severe dizziness from a 6ml dose, then I had a cytokine storm and was very ill from the next dose. then we dropped it down to 3 ml twice a week and I began reacting to it so we dropped it down to 1.5ml twice a week. at that dose no reaction, but anything over 2ml made me react with an allergic reaction. I am extremely med sensitive and even had a seizure after just a few drops of an IV antibiotic so im not a typical case at all.
     
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    justy Donate Advocate Demonstrate

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    Now I have been off the SCIG for 9 months and I am bedbound again. Evne tiny doses were stopping me from being bedbound. I now also have had a bad cold and now have candid in my throat - I used to get this all the time before scig, and lots of viruses etc.
     
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  15. ivorin

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    One idea for you is Apuxan, you might want to check it out (just google it), it's backed by solid scientific evodence to push th2 into th1 mode - might help with the viruses and colds!
     
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    I take it now for 4months, prescribed by KDM the effect for me seems to be very low.. hope it works for you!
     
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    Envious!!!
     
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    Took gammanorm 6ml scig for 10 months, once a week.
    0 effects.
     
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    I took SCIG for 3 months, i didn't notice much from it.
    I want to try IVIG ala autoimmune protocol, i just need to find a doctor who's willing to prescribe it.
     

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