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Joint pain without redness or swelling

Discussion in 'Pain and Inflammation' started by Linus, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. Linus

    Linus

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    Some websites list joint pain without redness or swelling as one of the main symptoms of CFS(for example here. For me my fatigue is as significant of a promblem as this joint pain that I have in seven diffirent joints but surfing through this forum I didn't find many people talking about joint pain specifically without redness or swelling.

    How come it's listed as a main symptom? Do a lot of you experience this?

    P.s. I am new to the forum and very glad to have found it although I have no diognosis yet.
     
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    deleder2k Senior Member

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    I do! It is mainly in my arms. From the shoulder down to my fingers. Cracks everywhere. It hurts, but nothing compared to the pain related to muscle cramps.
     
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    Martial Senior Member

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    Its also as common in things like Lyme and Co infections, Lupus, Candida, Heavy metal toxicity, certain viral and parasitic infections, etc.. . Welcome to the forum by the way!
     
  4. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards A unique snowflake

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    I tend to think of pain as pain, and don't really differentiate much between joint pain and muscle pain, of which I get both. I'd imagine others are the same. Or maybe I'm talking rubbish and everyone obsesses about their joint pain in private!
     
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    lansbergen Senior Member

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    I did.. Like deleder2k says it cracked I think it cracks because the liquid gets to viscosity. All my mucosa were to dry. None the less my pain was not in the joint but on the outside. It only happened during flareups.
     
  6. Iquitos

    Iquitos Senior Member

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    Yes, my hip joints are extremely painful and I have no redness or obvious swelling. Also one thumb joint has swelling but no redness.

    Medical cannabis is helping with my joint pain, muscle pain, bone pain and neuropathic pain (like fibromyalgia), and with sleep. Also seems to be helping with brain fog and muscle spasms/charlie horses, little by little. It's an anti-inflamatory so that's probably how it it helping, at least in part.
     
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  7. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    I get joint pain, but it doesn't really affect my ability to function (PEM and OI are the limiting factors) so I tend to ignore it. Lots of joint cracking as well.
     
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    rosie26 Senior Member

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    Happens to me in bad flare ups. The hands almost everyday though.
     
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  9. NK17

    NK17 Senior Member

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    Joint pain is almost always present
    and definitely gets worst during flare ups, as well as muscular and neuropathic pain and aches.
    It's the myalgic part of ME ;(
     
  10. PallasKat

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    Yes - I have joint pain in knees, wrists, hands, feet, shoulder (which gets worse when smells and perfumes don't agree with me), jaw, low back and especially neck. The joint pain moves around daily.

    Sometimes, when I have a crash or flare up - everything hurts at once - it's not severe, but very exhausting.
     
  11. perchance dreamer

    perchance dreamer Senior Member

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    A Shea nut butter extract called FlexNow helps my joint pain. It took a couple of weeks for me to start noticing some pain relief from it.

    AZ and iHerb sell it and have user reviews. I buy a 2-month supply from the product's web site since that's the cheapest I've found for a maintenance supply.

    http://www.powerofshea.com/
     
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  12. maryb

    maryb iherb code TAK122

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    @perchance dreamer
    I looked at this product but couldn't see the list of ingredients. They show 4 photos but none of what's in it:(
     
  13. perchance dreamer

    perchance dreamer Senior Member

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    Here are the ingredients. The link is on the Resources page of the web site under Supplement Facts:


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  14. perchance dreamer

    perchance dreamer Senior Member

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    @maryb, when I wrote the above yesterday, I forgot to tag you in the message.
     
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  15. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    I have had ME for over 25 years but only developed pelvic and hip pain a year and a half ago, following a back injury. No redness, swelling, or cracking. In the past few months I have developed knee pain, which I was blaming in weight gain. :grumpy: I do not know if it is ME related.
     
  16. deleder2k

    deleder2k Senior Member

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    How old are you? Maybe you could do a BMD test, a test that measures bone mass density.
     
  17. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    I'm old and I have already done that. I have osteopenia/osteoporosis. I know that makes your bones break more easily, but does it make the hurt?
     
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    In case you don't know, joint pain that moves around is symptomatic of Lyme/coinfections
     
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    deleder2k Senior Member

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    Doesnt also Lyme join pain differ from ME/CFS that it is swollen and red??
     
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    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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