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Is ME/CFS a type of AIDS?

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Yungas, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. Yungas

    Yungas

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    ukxmrv Senior Member

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    It's an old theory Yungas. Lots written about it in the 80's and 90's.

    If you read the book "Osler's Web" there's lots of info there.
  3. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    That video is my favorite one made by a patient. Great music too. Very slightly dated in that it deals at the end with the Lo paper being held up, but still very good.
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    CFS has never spread like an infectious disease, so no.
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    yes it has, albeit with an extremely long incubation period, so yep.
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    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    Yes it has. The prime examples being outbreaks in hospitals among the staff.
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    With more than a 100 epidemics, of which more than 50 were investigated, how can ME not be an infectious agent? The only other possibility is environmental such as toxins. Bye, Alex
  8. Mary Poppins

    Mary Poppins PJ Princess

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    Hmm, yes, I was under the impression that outbreaks had been a major historical component of CFS/ME.
  9. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member

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    We have ME spreading in my extended family to the in-laws and we are in 3 different countries.

    Some people don't know just how much there is in a large extended family. I only found out that an uncle (by marriage) has had ME for 40 years.

    The virus or whatever may be very slow and manifesting in different ways. We just don't have enough data yet.

    Not all retroviruses are going to act the same. HTLV may be a better model for disease symptoms than HIV.
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    Yes there are and have been outbreaks of CFIDS/ME. Plenty of cluster cases. And when I got sick in 91, I got it from a guy I was dating, through casual contact, kissing/saliva, no sex. And when I went to my doctor then, he said there was a huge outbreak of it in my county, he was seeing tons of cases of it, and he knew right away that I had it.

    My belief has always been that it is only infectious during the first thirty days. Maybe there are other strains of it that are different. But the one that got me, I think that's the one spreading all over China now.
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    Yes it make sense that it is only contagious within a certain time period, probably around a month.
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    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    I agree that it's probably contagious for a limited time. Don't know how long. This would be at least a partial explanation of why there are outbreaks and general disease spread, but generally most people who have contact with pwME don't get sick.
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    theres gotta be some connection with a herpes virus too, perhaps they are co-infecting
  14. August59

    August59 Daughters High School Graduation

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    The latest copy of "Brain" is on the shelf and it looks like it has some good articles if you enjoy reading how the gut effects the brain and autism could have contributuions from the female testosterone due to closrtrium modidying wrong!!!

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