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Is EWOT a "hack" to exercise without PEM?

Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Jesse2233, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. Jesse2233

    Jesse2233 Senior Member

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    Has anyone here used EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) to get the benefits of exercising without PEM or a worsening of their condition?

    I've been having success with mHBOT and I wonder if EWOT would be a good adjunct given recent findings on impaired OXPHOS. I haven't seen many patient reports on PR, HR, MyPatientMatch, ProHealth, or Reddit, and of course there are no formal studies.

    Dr Jamie Deckoff-Jones has however covered its potential ME benefits in a blog post from 2012

    She discusses EWOT literature on athletes, COPD, and CHF
    Later, and even more interestingly, she references two papers on mitochodnrial myopathies
    Caveat: what would be best is likely sensible gentle exercise at gradually increasing intensity and duration for mild to moderate patients who are stable on other treatments
     
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    junkcrap50 Senior Member

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    I've wondered the same thing. Especially since people with CFS have their CPET (Cardio Pulmonary Exercise Testing) show that they quickly and prematurely enter an anerobic state (as opposed to lasting in aerobic state), far earlier than healthy people. As a result, their VO2 Max and other results of the CPET are abnormal, compared to controls.
     
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  3. Alvin2

    Alvin2 If humans were rational...

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    I will be a bit surprised if this works because oxygen is not the limiting factor (our blood oxygenation is the same as everyone else), it seems to be energy (glucose) utilization ability.
     
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    If it's the t-cells cleaning up damaged muscles that causes exercise induced PEM, then extra oxygen shouldn't help, and might possibly even make it worse (imagining supercharged t-cells).

    Sounds like a health scam to me.
     
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    Jesse2233 Senior Member

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    @junkcrap50 good point!

    @Wishful I don't think it's a scam as it seems to be effective for some indications. The question is whether it would help us.

    I understand your point on T-cells and don't know the answer, but a worsening due to increased oxygen has not been my personal experience with mHBOT
     
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    Did some light yoga and a few push ups tonight while wearing an oxygen mask hooked up to my condenser running at 7L/m

    Felt less out of breath and my heart rate returned to normal quicker

    I will slowly increase intensity and oxygen flow rate
     

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