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Invest in ME writes to The Lancet about PACE

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Sasha, Nov 14, 2015.

  1. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    BurnA Senior Member

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    Great to read, it certainly doesnt hold back.
    I particularly like :

    That should scare a few people.
     
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    It was beautifully worded. I think the Wessley cabal should be charged with fraud and misuse of taxpayer funds.
     
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    I don't think the evidence is strong enough to prove fraud. There is one single exception to that, which I now think can prove fraud. Over time we need to push that. It only applies to one investigator, though if we look more deeply this might change. I don't want to discuss this more in any thread as its about highly sensitive information.
     
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    Read: Good science, bad science: Questioning research practices in psychological research

    http://dare.uva.nl/record/1/417013

    Analyzes in more of hundreds of studies in psychology, have shown that in more than half inaccuracies and mistakes are made (conscious and unconscious). Researchers not only remove data, they also use favorably scores.

    I am almost 100% convinced this has happend in the Pace trials too.
     
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    We know they deliberately used a statistical method that skewed the data in their favour and was mathematically inappropriate. I would love to investigate this more but I am not up to it at the moment. This has been discussed here for years, and in recent commentaries by Tuller etc. It did not pass the empirical test either - how can you define normal health as the equivalent to a typical eighty year old?
     
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